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Rome
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 Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 4:07 am Post subject: Re: Let's Play, WTF is That!?! |
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This black car on the left?
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Now on the WTF question, what is the tow rig there? Looks like a dedicated thing. |
The small truck behind the Beetle is another Hanomag product with limited production- a '47 thru '50 ST-20. It was a continuation of the late '30's/early '40's SS-20. SS stood for Schnell Schlepper, quick tow-er. 1.9 liter 4-cylinder 20 hp diesel engine. The wheelbase was approx. 1/3 shorter than a Beetle's (1935 mm vs 2400 mm).
https://magirus-iveco-museum.de/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Hanomag-SS20.pdf
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melville
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| Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:29 am Post subject: Re: Let's Play, WTF is That!?! |
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Schnell Schlepper!!! Love it!!!
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cdennisg
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| Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:18 am Post subject: Re: Let's Play, WTF is That!?! |
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| Schnell Schlepper!!! Love it!!! |
That is a great name! I wonder what "Slow Tow" would be? That seems more like it. 
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finster
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| Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:42 am Post subject: Re: Let's Play, WTF is That!?! |
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well done Rome, it did occur to me that it could be a hanomag as the photo is probably near their factory but I ran out of search time. 
while we're on mystery trucks, is this a german ford in bluebaron's photo?
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scottyrocks
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| Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:06 pm Post subject: Re: Let's Play, WTF is That!?! |
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| The Opel Manta in Europe, it was renamed the 1900 Rallye when sold in the USA through Buick dealers. It actually was a better sports car than the "2/3-Corvette" Opel GT, which shared the engine. This looks to be a '72 model probably. |
I remember it as the Opel Manta here in the States (well, Brooklyn, anyway).
The bumpers tell me it's a '73 or later (unless Opel was ahead of the regulations).
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scottyrocks
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| Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:16 pm Post subject: Re: Let's Play, WTF is That!?! |
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| How long ago was it when VW started making cars just like everyone else? |
Actually, I feel it is the other way around. VW was just behind Honda in 1974, which was an improvement on the Austin/Morris Mini after about a dozen years, and then everyone eventually fell in behind them with transverse engines and front wheel drive.
But yeah, much later on everything became so homogenized it's hard to tell one car/truck from another.
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cdennisg
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| Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:22 pm Post subject: Re: Let's Play, WTF is That!?! |
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| How long ago was it when VW started making cars just like everyone else? |
Actually, I feel it is the other way around. VW was just behind Honda in 1974, which was an improvement on the Austin/Morris Mini after about a dozen years, and then everyone eventually feel in behind them with transverse engines and front wheel drive.
But yeah, much later on everything became so homogenized it's hard to tell one car/truck from another. |
I guess I meant to ask when they started making cars LOOK like everyone else. parking lots are so boring these days.
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notchboy
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| Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 11:32 pm Post subject: Re: Let's Play, WTF is That!?! |
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| How long ago was it when VW started making cars just like everyone else? |
Actually, I feel it is the other way around. VW was just behind Honda in 1974, which was an improvement on the Austin/Morris Mini after about a dozen years, and then everyone eventually feel in behind them with transverse engines and front wheel drive.
But yeah, much later on everything became so homogenized it's hard to tell one car/truck from another. |
I guess I meant to ask when they started making cars LOOK like everyone else. parking lots are so boring these days. |
Id say then with the Passat, Early Golf derivatives of the time. VW gets credit all the time for shifting away from ACVW platform to the water coolers at this time. Saved the company some lit says.
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crukab
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| Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:22 pm Post subject: Re: Let's Play, WTF is That!?! |
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Snapped this truck tree today.
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cdennisg
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| Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:49 pm Post subject: Re: Let's Play, WTF is That!?! |
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49-54 Chevy, probably post 51 with that grille. I don't know the specifics, but I gotta be close on this one. Looks like it might be one ton, also.
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| Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:24 pm Post subject: Re: Let's Play, WTF is That!?! |
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| I wonder if the transmission was 4 on the floor---or 3 on the tree.? |
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notchboy
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finster
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 9:44 am Post subject: Re: Let's Play, WTF is That!?! |
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but what make of tree is it?
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crukab
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:41 am Post subject: Re: Let's Play, WTF is That!?! |
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Hard to get a close pic w/ my vw in it. Shot from the cab of my '66
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cdennisg
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 11:55 am Post subject: Re: Let's Play, WTF is That!?! |
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Looks like a paper Birch tree to me.
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mukluk
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:47 pm Post subject: Re: Let's Play, WTF is That!?! |
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Looks like an american beech tree.
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calvinater
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:07 pm Post subject: Re: Let's Play, WTF is That!?! |
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Beech trees have smooth bark.
My bet is yellow birch , although the leaves look rather large.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: Let's Play, WTF is That!?! |
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Bark looks mostly smooth with some warts and ridges to me in the fuzzy picture. 
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:34 pm Post subject: Re: Let's Play, WTF is That!?! |
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Don't look like any birch I have ever seen!
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cdennisg
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 3:21 pm Post subject: Re: Let's Play, WTF is That!?! |
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| Don't look like any birch I have ever seen! |
I just one cut into firewood last month. Not all birch trees are white and smooth looking. Often the old trunk gets very grey and rough. Those leaves look exactly like any other birch tree.
The leaves are also reminiscent of an Elm tree. Maybe some species of Elm?
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