Electric conversions-- on the way?

[djkeev]

Before you all go screaming about the damn liberals and the EV......

Top three States with highest EV registrations are......
In order.....

California
Florida
Texas
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[nemobuscaptain]

I DGAF if you want to buy a Tesla and put up with the limitations. Do the rich left even like Teslas anymore?

Besides all you did was show us a map of where the rich people live. Is isnt surprising. I should say the warm climate rich people who dont have to deal with batteries not working well in cold weather.

The vast majority of the country will stomp your marxist dreams and mandates. I find it absolutely hilarious that people think there is the slightest chance of any of this passing Congress, or otherwise think that you can just declare it and make it so. I know they dont teach civics anymore.

BTW, Im not opposed necessarily. Id LOVE skateboards that could repower cars easily. Id love running the drive wheels on electric motors and tossing transmissions in the junk pile of history. A small diesel electric generator attached to motor once a smaller battery pack (like 25-50 miles big enough to handle most drives) would be great. Biodiesel even better.

Or a functional power network to run it and charge cars. California alone needs a dozen new nukes at least to even change their EV usage by a few percentages. And needs tens of millions of miles of wires and chargers.

Battery tech just isnt there or on the horizon. 1000-2000 pounds battery packs you throw away every 5-7 years are absurd. The green movement will.someday look this error in the same way they now look at greenies forcing us to switch from paper to plastic... to save the environment.

China is licking their lips at all this nutso talk. So is Saudi Arabia because plastics are made from oil and China needs oil and coal to send millions of dumptrucks and bulldozers to mine these hundreds of millions of pounds of rare earth metals.

When the tech is better I might change MY mind but even the military or nasa cant afford it right now. We will see it there first.
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[skills@eurocarsplus]

my end prediction:

there will be a 70/30 split on ICE vs electric propulsion. 30% of people could live with an EV 70% couldn't

gas/diesel will still be available for another 200 years I suspect...even in synthetic form.

you can run a car on hooch, about 180/200 proof if i recall.

you can't just flip a switch and make it all go away. think of all the all the appliances, trucks, cars, planes, trains, tractors, mowers, combines, tillers...you get it... that aren't at the end of their life getting scrapped. it just won't happen in the timeframe they think.

it wasn't until the 70's almost every home had electricity. those were in the days of less bureaucratic red tape and people that actually worked. look how long it takes to get a pothole repaired.

it's a proven fact wind/solar unicorn farts can't power the world. if they were serious about any of this bullshit we'd be on a tier 10 nuclear reactor by now. China's 3 gorges dam doesn't even make enough power for them

EV will for sure make sense in heavily populated areas, no doubt. every last consumer product is a derivative of oil and or it's byproducts... e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g.. asphalt, phones, packaging, ink...the list is endless

the 2 technologies are going to coexist for a long, long time
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Plant more trees and buy diesel. Get the most out of the dinos.
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[DuncanS]

I'm surprised how political this discussion has become.

My grandfather died at the wheel of an electric car--youthful heart attack--he drove up onto a neighbors lawn into the rose bushes. At the time--pre WWI, aircraft were in a rudimentary development stage with only short flights possible. He couldn't have imagined a flight across the pond in under 3 hours in a Concorde, much less imagined the Concorde itself.

His daughter--Mom--was born in 1904. She saw horse drawn transportation as dominant and then moving to 70 MPH Interstate highway driving. She saw the telephone, development of recorded sound, radio, universal distribution of electrical power to all parts of the US, television, the Concorde, computers and a man landing on the Moon, What will we see? We can't imagine it any more than my grandfather and the Concorde.

I just sold my cruising sailboat with an IC mariner engine--one of the very few designed and built strictly for marine use--most are converted industrial or transportation engines. Remember, unlike an automobile, a marine engine is requiring serious torque all the time: as an automobile climbing an endless hill with no coasting, nor flats. The new owner is a young EE who was involved with the development of capacitor battery storage, where surface area is king. His work involved pyrolyzing a a coconut husk fibre. The result was a pure carbon fiber the diameter of a human hair. But it winds up being a tube creating a large surface are for it size. Far more than a flat sheet. AND the tube wall has close packed holes as well--tubes within a tube. This is all very exciting Wright Bros. work. What will the equivalent Concorde of this turn out to be? We can't imagine.

He is converting to E power with a 48 nautical mile range using today's latest technology which he says will be outdated by the time he undertakes her maiden voyage.

100 years from now?

Power from wind/solar/water/fusion/geothermal/? running autonomous trains hauling autonomous E trucks (charged from the train) taking goods to individual locations?

Maybe transponders on Model As and T3s connected directly to the DMV limiting annual mileage of 200 miles at which point the engine will no longer start. Want a Model A or a T3 for touring? No problem--E conversion kits and installers will be available. Expensive? Well, buy an untouched Westy and by the time you have repowered with a specialized tranny and Porsche CV joints and all that other stuff for decent reliable performance--new wiring harness, ECUs, etc., you would have been able to put in an E motor with a single moving part.

We can't imagine, but it will happen at some level.

Duncan

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The world's problem is there is simply too many people on this planet.
Electric car or not, climate change, food shortages, and pending wars are going to curb the population.

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