Hello! Log in or Register   |  Help  |  Donate  |  Buy Shirts See all banner ads | Advertise on TheSamba.com  
TheSamba.com
 
Anyone know what this hole in the rear wheel well is for?
Forum Index -> Beetle - 1958-1967 Share: Facebook Twitter
Reply to topic
Print View
Quick sort: Show newest posts on top | Show oldest posts on top View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Mr67
Samba Member


Joined: July 18, 2019
Posts: 4

Mr67 is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:50 pm    Post subject: Anyone know what this hole in the rear wheel well is for? Reply with quote

I don't recall removing anything when I disassembled the car. But it seems as though it should at least have a plug?
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
viiking
Samba Member


Joined: May 10, 2013
Posts: 2668
Location: Sydney Australia
viiking is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Anyone know what this hole in the rear wheel well is for? Reply with quote

I have the same holes in my '68.

I think it is just an open hole. It might have been a hole for an assembly jig (maybe for the rear apron). There will be corresponding one on the opposite side.
_________________
1968 1500 RHD Lotus White Beetle since birth. In the hospital for major surgery
1966 Lancia Flavia Pininfarina Coupe - in the waiting room
Discharged: 1983 Vanagon, 1974 1800 Microbus,1968 Low Light,1968 Type 3
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
daven
Samba Member


Joined: January 13, 2009
Posts: 351
Location: Dayton OH
daven is offline 

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 3:52 am    Post subject: Re: Anyone know what this hole in the rear wheel well is for? Reply with quote

No year is identified but could be sway bar mounting holes?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
viiking
Samba Member


Joined: May 10, 2013
Posts: 2668
Location: Sydney Australia
viiking is offline 

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 3:57 am    Post subject: Re: Anyone know what this hole in the rear wheel well is for? Reply with quote

Not a sway bar location.
_________________
1968 1500 RHD Lotus White Beetle since birth. In the hospital for major surgery
1966 Lancia Flavia Pininfarina Coupe - in the waiting room
Discharged: 1983 Vanagon, 1974 1800 Microbus,1968 Low Light,1968 Type 3
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
splitjunkie
Samba Member


Joined: April 04, 2006
Posts: 4095

splitjunkie is offline 

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 7:38 am    Post subject: Re: Anyone know what this hole in the rear wheel well is for? Reply with quote

It is for the Z bar which was an camber compensator type of sway bar. They were introduced in '67 for the US market. The US '67 and '68 non autostick cars would have had them. They may have used them in different markets but they were definitely present for the US market. The Z bar was no longer needed once they introduced the IRS rear suspension in '69.

Since they still made swing axle cars for other markets and to keep the part backwards compatible, they kept the mounting hole and studs intact.
_________________
Chris

You know, a lot of these scratches will buff right out... Jerry Seinfeld
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
KTPhil Premium Member
Samba Member


Joined: April 06, 2006
Posts: 34021
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
KTPhil is offline 

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:13 am    Post subject: Re: Anyone know what this hole in the rear wheel well is for? Reply with quote

splitjunkie wrote:
It is for the Z bar which was an camber compensator type of sway bar. They were introduced in '67 for the US market. The US '67 and '68 non autostick cars would have had them. They may have used them in different markets but they were definitely present for the US market. The Z bar was no longer needed once they introduced the IRS rear suspension in '69.

Since they still made swing axle cars for other markets and to keep the part backwards compatible, they kept the mounting hole and studs intact.


No, that is the hole further forward, not the one circled.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
mukluk
Samba Member


Joined: October 18, 2012
Posts: 7028
Location: Clyde, TX
mukluk is offline 

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:39 am    Post subject: Re: Anyone know what this hole in the rear wheel well is for? Reply with quote

That's the location of the tail light wiring harness holes on earlier cars. The harness hole location shown used in the picture didn't exist until roughly 1964.
_________________
1960 Ragtop w/Semaphores "Inga"
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
pastellgreen
Samba Member


Joined: January 06, 2012
Posts: 1049
Location: Germany
pastellgreen is offline 

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 1:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Anyone know what this hole in the rear wheel well is for? Reply with quote

mukluk wrote:
That's the location of the tail light wiring harness holes on earlier cars. The harness hole location shown used in the picture didn't exist until roughly 1964.


I had two untouched '61, one from october 1960, the other one from may 1961. The 1960 had only one hole in total, the one where the harness was conducted through. The 1961 has both holes as shown in the pic, the harness for the (still) egg style taillight is conducted through the new hole.
I still wonder if I should close the second hole with a rubber grommet.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Mr67
Samba Member


Joined: July 18, 2019
Posts: 4

Mr67 is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:41 am    Post subject: Re: Anyone know what this hole in the rear wheel well is for? Reply with quote

Found my answer. When going back through the photos I noticed what appears to be a clip kn that hole. And indeed, I had two clips left over in my stash after reassembling the car. They're there to hold the black wire for the reverse lights before it gets fished through the bumper bracket slot. In the picture you can make out the clip buried under the undercoating. Yep, that's the same car in my first post.
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topic    Forum Index -> Beetle - 1958-1967 All times are Mountain Standard Time/Pacific Daylight Savings Time
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

About | Help! | Advertise | Donate | Premium Membership | Privacy/Terms of Use | Contact Us | Site Map
Copyright © 1996-2023, Everett Barnes. All Rights Reserved.
Not affiliated with or sponsored by Volkswagen of America | Forum powered by phpBB
Links to eBay or other vendor sites may be affiliate links where the site receives compensation.