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andk5591 Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2005 Posts: 16757 Location: State College, PA
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 1:30 pm Post subject: Can I run a type 4 on my type 1 test stand? |
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Putting a type 4 back together and would be awesome to run it in my engine test stand that uses a beetle tranny housing. Can it be done? I know swapping the flywheel is not a thing, so can I do it and if so, what starter? _________________ D-Dubya Manx clone - 63 Short pan,1914.
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nextgen Samba Member
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bsairhead Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2008 Posts: 3565 Location: viroqua wi.
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 2:51 pm Post subject: Re: Can I run a type 4 on my type 1 test stand? |
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If it bolts up and the flywheel doesn't scrape it should work. |
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12714 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 5:37 pm Post subject: Re: Can I run a type 4 on my type 1 test stand? |
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Stock Beetle starter is working just fine for me. _________________ We had the stone age, the bronze age, the industrial age and now we are in the age of mass deception and mind control for corporate profit. (The mass media age) |
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Lo Cash John Samba Member
Joined: February 06, 2004 Posts: 2246 Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:04 pm Post subject: Re: Can I run a type 4 on my type 1 test stand? |
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Is it for an automatic? Then no.
Does it have a flywheel for a 914 or 912? Then no.
Does it have a 228mm flywheel? Then I'm not sure but I think with some grinding it will.
Does it have any other VW flywheel? You should be fine. _________________ www.LoCashRacing.org
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Vanapplebomb Samba Member
Joined: November 03, 2010 Posts: 5410 Location: Holland, MI
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 9:11 pm Post subject: Re: Can I run a type 4 on my type 1 test stand? |
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All VW flywheels will work on a test stand with either a bug or 002/091 bus bellhousing. 200, 210, 215, 228mm, all the same ring gear.
It is the 228mm pressure plate that will get you with a bug bellhousing. It’s big. To fit a 228mm pressure plate in a bug bellhousing you usually need to do a little grinding inside near the starter.
914 flywheels can be used on a bug/bus bellhousing for testing purposes. You just have to shim the starter motor out 6mm or so. This is because the ring gear for the Porsche transmissions is offset further back. To avoid binding the starter gear, simply moving the starter back works well enough. _________________ 1800 Type 4 Berrien 295
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andk5591 Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2005 Posts: 16757 Location: State College, PA
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:42 am Post subject: Re: Can I run a type 4 on my type 1 test stand? |
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Thanks all. Worked beautifully. We did have to grind a tiny bit from the lower portion of the bell housing, but that was it. And since this is going in a bus, I could easily tune and once we get a couple things mounted, going in and hopefully going back home this week. _________________ D-Dubya Manx clone - 63 Short pan,1914.
Rosie 65 bug - My mostly stock daily driver.
Woodie 69 VW woodie (Hot VWs 7/12).
"John's car" 64 VW woodie - The first ever
Maxine 61 Cal-look bug - Cindy's daily driver.
Max - 73 standard Beetle hearse project - For sale
66 bug project - Real patina & Suby conversion
There's more, but not keeping them... |
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