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Letterman7 Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2004 Posts: 3198 Location: Downingtown, PA
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vwracerdave Samba Member
Joined: November 11, 2004 Posts: 15302 Location: Deep in the 405
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:59 pm Post subject: Re: New Manx launching next year |
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It looks cool....................but no thanks. _________________ 2017 Street Comp Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble, OK
2010 Sportsman ET Champion - Mid-America Dragway - Arkansas City, KS
1997 Sportsman ET Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble ,OK
Featured in Dec. 2001 HOT VW's Magazine page 63
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Q-Dog Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2010 Posts: 8699 Location: Sunset, Louisiana
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MrGoodtunes Samba Member
Joined: May 14, 2012 Posts: 851 Location: South Florida
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:47 am Post subject: Re: New Manx launching next year |
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Nice, but... no front turn signal, marker lights? |
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Dale M. Samba Member
Joined: April 12, 2006 Posts: 20377 Location: Just a tiny bit west of Yosemite Valley
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:20 am Post subject: Re: New Manx launching next year |
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Not impressed. Just another car company falling into the electric (carbon free) car world hysteria will save us.... _________________ “Fear The Government That Wants To Take Your Guns" - Thomas Jefferson.
"Kellison Sand Piper Roadster" For Street & Show.
"Joe Pody Sandrover" Buggy with 2180 for Autocross (Sold)
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joemama Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2006 Posts: 1636 Location: La Crescenta, California
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:48 am Post subject: Re: New Manx launching next year |
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Is there a mention about cost? I think that would have a large impact on interest with the average buggy enthusiast. The Manx company was up in Big Bear during the annual Manx outing about 3 weeks ago. They were showing a new take on the original Manx body, with a couple of cool improvements, like lockable storage under the rear seat. It was a prototype, and when I asked what the price would be once they were produced, I was told they were hoping to keep it to no more than $6,000.00. This was for the body only, no windshield.
Other items they had on display/for sale:
Windshield 600.00
Front bumper 600.00
Rear bumper 400.00
Drop down dash - 350.00
Sidewinder exhaust - 705.00
Im glad that the Manx will live on, but I wont be a customer. I also wonder if these will actually be considered real Manx's. |
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y2kbaja Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2016 Posts: 93 Location: Sacramento
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:38 pm Post subject: Re: New Manx launching next year |
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I like it and I think it has nice styling and updates the design. Not that it needed to be updated. It looks way better that the 2+2. |
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EVfun Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2012 Posts: 5473 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 3:16 pm Post subject: Re: New Manx launching next year |
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As an EV and aircooled VW enthusiast I'm gonna pass. I do think they captured the styling quite well, not easy to do when you rip out everything VW including the iconic engine. The rear grill is a nice touch.
For me the reason for a buggy is the simplicity. I like to use this platform to ditch everything not required and reduce a car to its essential substance, with style. A T-bucket for a later decade, if you will.
I've built a couple EV buggies. I started with a VW powered buggy that only weighed 1100 lb. in road "legal" trim. I built it into an EV buggy with lead acid that weighed 1420 lb. then upgraded it with Lithium batteries to a 1230 lb. buggy. Complexity creep -- screw up charging or discharging those and you could burn the house down! I used LiFePO4 cells to minimize that risk, but it still had feature creep (and I see electrical as easy.) If I buy an EV I expect it to be from a maker large enough to pay up if their design burns my house (and VW stuff) down.
I think many people will discover how nice an EV is after they drive one a little. The torque and power is down lower, the efficiency is at higher rpms. They dont need gears if the motor has 20% more mass and the controller 40% more silicon strictly required (and power silicon is getting ever cheaper.) Batteries and charging seem to be improving and coming down in price too. I see 2022 in the EV world being about 1918 in the gas car world. Hang on! _________________
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As a general rule, cheap parts are the most expensive parts you can buy. |
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jpfahrstar Samba Member
Joined: November 12, 2003 Posts: 43 Location: Columbia, MD
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 4:22 pm Post subject: Re: New Manx launching next year |
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I like it. There's room in this world for all the old gas powered buggies we have now (and love so dearly) and a new version of Bruce's grand idea that involves electric propulsion. I have no great problem with the push to electric vehicles in our future and this is one fun version for sure. Can't wait to see what it costs and if there will be an electric conversion kit for our old gas powered buggies. |
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12701 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:41 am Post subject: Re: New Manx launching next year |
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Ya, looks great and as far as driving them, these ones will do everything that 90% of the present Buggy owners do right now. The exception being those of us that take our Buggies on holidays long distance.
But… what about the SOUND??!!!
A Buggy with no sound is eating a steak without taste buds, watching the peelers blindfolded, going to a music festival stone deaf!!! What is the point?
And… what abut the pleasure we get working on ours?
Ya, neat rig. Talk to me about it again when I am in the care home and no longer able for oil changes and setting the valve lash… Buggies to me are about getting your hands greasy as well as driving them! Yup that’s the geriatric model for sure! _________________ We had the stone age, the bronze age, the industrial age and now we are in the age of mass deception and mind control for corporate profit. (The mass media age) |
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finster Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2012 Posts: 7934 Location: north o' the border
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:26 am Post subject: Re: New Manx launching next year |
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is it a BUG-E then? _________________ "we're here on Earth to fart around" kurt vonnegut
nothing lasts, nothing is finished, and nothing is perfect... |
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Peerson Samba Member
Joined: February 04, 2021 Posts: 16 Location: KC
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 3:37 am Post subject: Re: New Manx launching next year |
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Not even if they give them away for free |
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scottyrocks Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2016 Posts: 2660 Location: Long Island, NY
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:07 am Post subject: Re: New Manx launching next year |
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oprn wrote: |
But… what about the SOUND??!!! |
Exactly.
No sound. No stick shift. Heck, no transmission! What's the point?
It's coming so fast, I can feel the homogenization of society as we speak. _________________ “If you care for a thing long enough, it takes on a life of its own, doesn't it? Mending old things, preserving them, looking after them – on some level there's no rational grounds for it.”
– D. Tartt, 'The Goldfinch' |
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Letterman7 Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2004 Posts: 3198 Location: Downingtown, PA
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:37 pm Post subject: Re: New Manx launching next year |
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scottyrocks wrote: |
oprn wrote: |
But… what about the SOUND??!!! |
Exactly.
No sound. No stick shift. Heck, no transmission! What's the point?
It's coming so fast, I can feel the homogenization of society as we speak. |
Well, as from an older person perspective who's knees aren't the greatest - I'm tired of driving stick shift. I've had kits and buggies for years.. I can do without the clutch in metro areas. Since quality replacement parts for the engines are becoming harder to find.. I don't miss valve adjustments either. |
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slave1pilot Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2010 Posts: 943 Location: Tehachapi CA
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12701 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:48 pm Post subject: Re: New Manx launching next year |
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Letterman7 wrote: |
scottyrocks wrote: |
oprn wrote: |
But… what about the SOUND??!!! |
Exactly.
No sound. No stick shift. Heck, no transmission! What's the point?
It's coming so fast, I can feel the homogenization of society as we speak. |
Well, as from an older person perspective who's knees aren't the greatest - I'm tired of driving stick shift. I've had kits and buggies for years.. I can do without the clutch in metro areas. Since quality replacement parts for the engines are becoming harder to find.. I don't miss valve adjustments either. |
There you go, did I call it or not?! It’s the geriatric model.
Now don’t get my wrong here, I am not making light of anyone. I’m getting old too. It’s not my knees, it’s my wrists and shoulders. I must confess that the power steering does have a bit of a draw for me. And one of these days I could turn up deaf too and not be able to hear that lovely Buggy sound we all grew up with. My turn is coming but for now I’m sticking with my engine powered one! _________________ We had the stone age, the bronze age, the industrial age and now we are in the age of mass deception and mind control for corporate profit. (The mass media age) |
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vwracerdave Samba Member
Joined: November 11, 2004 Posts: 15302 Location: Deep in the 405
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 5:54 am Post subject: Re: New Manx launching next year |
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EV just isn't for me. Nothing about the creature comforts or styling will ever get me to want an EV. I'll bet when you see the actual selling price most of you will realize it's just a dream. _________________ 2017 Street Comp Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble, OK
2010 Sportsman ET Champion - Mid-America Dragway - Arkansas City, KS
1997 Sportsman ET Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble ,OK
Featured in Dec. 2001 HOT VW's Magazine page 63
Watch my racing video's http://www.youtube.com/user/okvwracer/videos |
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NJ John Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2007 Posts: 2218 Location: HdG, MD & NJ
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 2:53 pm Post subject: Re: New Manx launching next year |
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Launch it! Right with Elon’s Tesla! _________________ 1973 standard, yellow, lowered, 3” narrowed front, 1600 blo-thru turbo w/single dell 15.4@86, so far
11.41 et buggy. Long gone
Let’s go O’s! Let’s go O’s!
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Dale M. Samba Member
Joined: April 12, 2006 Posts: 20377 Location: Just a tiny bit west of Yosemite Valley
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 3:43 pm Post subject: Re: New Manx launching next year |
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Probably going to increase the value of our vintage machines as they become less available.... _________________ “Fear The Government That Wants To Take Your Guns" - Thomas Jefferson.
"Kellison Sand Piper Roadster" For Street & Show.
"Joe Pody Sandrover" Buggy with 2180 for Autocross (Sold)
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joemama Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2006 Posts: 1636 Location: La Crescenta, California
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 7:48 pm Post subject: Re: New Manx launching next year |
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On my cul-de-sac, and corresponding block, there are 8 young men older than 17, younger than 30. 3 of them drive hybrids or electric. The rest of them that have a car, drive Japanese economy es. One drives a Malibu, but its the Toyota with a Chevy emblem kind. None are interested in cars, let alone classic cars. Some don't seem interested in driving. The only way many of the younger generation is getting into buggies, is if its electric, and they can buy it built, and not have to work on it. Not for me at this point in my life, but I think its the future for many. |
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