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RexMax Samba Member
Joined: July 21, 2022 Posts: 99 Location: S.F Bay area
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 7:01 pm Post subject: 1974 super experience |
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So many design flaws I can't even count them on this vehicle. I thought my Triumph TR6 had a few, but never have I seen so many on all the vehicles I've worked on like this one. At least the English built Spitfires, and they won the battle of Britain. It's not only major things, but all the little ones. Like having to cut the E brake adjuster screws so they don't poke through the new boot I bought. Wiring harnesses buried under that filthy tar board so you cannot access to trouble shoot without tearing the board apart. Just horrible engineering for a vehicle built in the late 70's. Having to tear the motor apart to change an alternator, ridiculous. This White Whale tasks me. From Hell's depth I stab at thee. I just don't get the love people have for these. They must enjoy being miserable. Oh, and that 80 dollar bently book I bought, worthless. I could have spent 20 bucks for a Chilton had gotten the same results. |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76909 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 7:05 pm Post subject: Re: 1974 super experience |
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Maybe Aircooled VWs is not for you. _________________ Glenn
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine
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RexMax Samba Member
Joined: July 21, 2022 Posts: 99 Location: S.F Bay area
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 7:16 pm Post subject: Re: 1974 super experience |
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Glenn wrote: |
Maybe Aircooled VWs is not for you. |
50 year old VW's are defiantly not for me. Bought this for my wife. Told her I thought she was crazy. In it up to my neck now. |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76909 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 7:24 pm Post subject: Re: 1974 super experience |
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Then put on your Big Boy pants and deal with it.
They are not difficult, you can do most things with simple and tools. _________________ Glenn
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine
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RexMax Samba Member
Joined: July 21, 2022 Posts: 99 Location: S.F Bay area
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 7:37 pm Post subject: Re: 1974 super experience |
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Glenn wrote: |
Then put on your Big Boy pants and deal with it.
They are not difficult, you can do most things with simple and tools. |
I have almost every automotive tool known to modern man, except that torque amplifier wrench I had to shell out 120 bucks for just to get that stinking flywheel off and on. 250 ft lbs just to hold the flywheel on that little piss pot of a motor? We're not talking about 500 road horsepower here. My riding lawnmower has almost as much HP. |
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Starbucket Samba Member
Joined: April 30, 2007 Posts: 4025 Location: WA
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 7:38 pm Post subject: Re: 1974 super experience |
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I'll giver you $10.00 if you deliver it and you will be happy. If you are not a gear head RUN. |
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viiking Samba Member
Joined: May 10, 2013 Posts: 2667 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 7:41 pm Post subject: Re: 1974 super experience |
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Must be hard living in the Colonies. _________________ 1968 1500 RHD Lotus White Beetle since birth. In the hospital for major surgery
1966 Lancia Flavia Pininfarina Coupe - in the waiting room
Discharged: 1983 Vanagon, 1974 1800 Microbus,1968 Low Light,1968 Type 3 |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76909 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 7:42 pm Post subject: Re: 1974 super experience |
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RexMax wrote: |
I have almost every automotive tool known to modern man, |
You're working on a car designed in the 1930s.
If you were working on a 2016 Toyota, you'd need a OBDII diagnostic tool.
Again... stop whining, you'll be a lot happier. _________________ Glenn
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine
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viiking Samba Member
Joined: May 10, 2013 Posts: 2667 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 7:51 pm Post subject: Re: 1974 super experience |
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Well he doesn't own a 3/4" 36mm socket and a piece of pipe! _________________ 1968 1500 RHD Lotus White Beetle since birth. In the hospital for major surgery
1966 Lancia Flavia Pininfarina Coupe - in the waiting room
Discharged: 1983 Vanagon, 1974 1800 Microbus,1968 Low Light,1968 Type 3 |
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RexMax Samba Member
Joined: July 21, 2022 Posts: 99 Location: S.F Bay area
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 8:01 pm Post subject: Re: 1974 super experience |
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viiking wrote: |
Well he doesn't own a 3/4" 36mm socket and a piece of pipe! |
Yes I do, but I wasn't in the mood for a hernia. |
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RexMax Samba Member
Joined: July 21, 2022 Posts: 99 Location: S.F Bay area
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 8:03 pm Post subject: Re: 1974 super experience |
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viiking wrote: |
Must be hard living in the Colonies. |
Well, we do have some pretty good craft beers. |
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RexMax Samba Member
Joined: July 21, 2022 Posts: 99 Location: S.F Bay area
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 8:07 pm Post subject: Re: 1974 super experience |
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Starbucket wrote: |
I'll giver you $10.00 if you deliver it and you will be happy. If you are not a gear head RUN. |
I'm a decent mechanic, just not a car cult member. |
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RexMax Samba Member
Joined: July 21, 2022 Posts: 99 Location: S.F Bay area
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 8:17 pm Post subject: Re: 1974 super experience |
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Glenn wrote: |
RexMax wrote: |
I have almost every automotive tool known to modern man, |
You're working on a car designed in the 1930s.
If you were working on a 2016 Toyota, you'd need a OBDII diagnostic tool.
Again... stop whining, you'll be a lot happier. |
You got me there. My scope was almost 1000 bucks, and I went cheap. |
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Tim Donahoe Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2012 Posts: 11740 Location: Redding, CA
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 9:20 pm Post subject: Re: 1974 super experience |
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Too bad, so sad.
You're dealing with a car that was proposed by Hitler, and built to be less than a 1000 mark, so that Germany could get on the road. Made for two adults and two children. And it was not designed to last fifty/sixty/or seventy years.
So, like every one of us, you're dealing with an antique. But this is where the similarity between us splits. Most of us don't start threads to bitch and moan about how shitty these cars are. We're fully aware of many designs that would have made the VW Bug easier to work on, or made it more comfortable, or more utilitarian, etc. We know what we have. And we deal with it, without bitching and moaning in thread after thread.
We know these cars are just a step above vintage toys. We know that even in 1974 they might have done things differently. So what? They didn't, and that's what we have to deal with. It comes with the territory. And we also know that we don't keep these cars going because we want to stay on good terms with our wives.
Perhaps this last is the primary reason why we just deal with the hand that was dealt. We like our VW's--warts and all.
Then again, there's also the matter of your attitude.
Talk your wife into something you can handle without causing you to have constant hissy fits every time you work on it. It'll be good for you, as well as her.
And us.
Tim _________________ Let's do the Time Warp again!
Richard O'Brien
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69809 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 9:38 pm Post subject: Re: 1974 super experience |
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RexMax wrote: |
Wiring harnesses buried under that filthy tar board so you cannot access to trouble shoot |
To anyone:
Under what circumstance would you need to access the harness behind the tarboard? I've never had anything fail mid-harness unless there was a serious enough issue where you should probably replace everything. _________________ How to Post Photos
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beetlenut Samba Member
Joined: May 27, 2009 Posts: 2983 Location: RI
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2022 10:44 am Post subject: Re: 1974 super experience |
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RexMax wrote: |
... Like having to cut the E brake adjuster screws so they don't poke through the new boot I bought. |
There are at least 4 or more different length cables for the E-brakes. Getting the right one would eliminate that issue. So operator error there. _________________ scrapyards are for quitters
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Wetstuff wrote: |
... I spend more time shaking it than directing it?! I get a pretty decent blast for 8sec. then have to shake it again. |
- Words to live by right there!
My 74 Super rebuild thread: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6507104#6507104 |
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Maddel Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2013 Posts: 935
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:24 am Post subject: Re: 1974 super experience |
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Well... It seems he is just not into AC VWs.
Some folks love 'em others hate 'em and yet others ignore 'em.
May be he should talk his wife into another car...
A Corvair may be? The "worst" of both worlds!
Don't get me wrong - IMHO the Corvair is bad ass! |
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