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wheel607 Samba Member
Joined: May 30, 2004 Posts: 1845
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 12:01 am Post subject: Re: VW Birth Certificates |
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What is the current cost for a certificate in USD and please give me a CURRENT website to order from. |
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RCJH77 Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2022 Posts: 181 Location: Johnson County, KS
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 6:22 am Post subject: Re: VW Birth Certificates |
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I just ordered mine about two weeks ago and it was $143.46. I ordered it from here:
https://www.volkswagen-classic-parts.com/en_us/service/certificate-data-sheets.html
Prepare for it to not be a smooth transaction. It took me no less than 5 attempts before I finally got it to work. I tried credit card multiple times and Paypal twice. The Paypal option worked the second time.
If you can't get it to work, you can email the order to [email protected] with this info:
Ordered product (Certificate/ Data Sheets / Bundle):
Document language (German / English):
Chassis number:
Engine number (if existing):
Modell name:
Billing- and delivery address:
Please confirm the following:
Your information is correct and corresponds to the existing vehicle documents. You are the legal owner of the vehicle you are requesting.
You can choose between two payment options. Prepayment by bank transfer and prepayment by credit card. If you want to pay by bank transfer, we will be happy to send you the necessary bank details. If you decide to pay by credit card, please send us the following information:
Credit card type: (MasterCard, Visa, AmEx):
Credit card number:
Good thru:
We will debit the amount from your credit card within a few days of receiving your order. Note: Please do not send us your check-digit! This information is not required for your payment.
The free shipping delivery time can take up to six weeks by mail.
Our general terms and conditions apply to your order. You find them by using the link:
https://www.volkswagen-classic-parts.de/terms_conditions |
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RCJH77 Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2022 Posts: 181 Location: Johnson County, KS
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 10:18 am Post subject: Re: VW Birth Certificates |
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Oh, and for what it's worth, I haven't received anything yet, but they do respond quickly when you message them (time zone differences taken into account).
Good luck! |
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RCJH77 Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2022 Posts: 181 Location: Johnson County, KS
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 9:02 am Post subject: Re: VW Birth Certificates |
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Just got my bug's birth certificate and data sheet yesterday. Turns out the 316 motor is, in fact, the original motor. So the motor was manufactured in September of '59 and the bug was manufactured October of '59. Also learned that it's a De Luxe, and came with fabric interior (PO replaced it with a different color vinyl). I'll for sure be switching back to the original at some point.
Overall, I think the birth certificate and data sheet are worth the expense. Very cool. 👍 |
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sportin-wood Samba Member
Joined: September 12, 2010 Posts: 2002 Location: Texas
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:08 pm Post subject: Re: VW Birth Certificates |
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Has anyone else encountered discrepancies on their car's birth certificates? Mine is a February 1966 beetle. It says "Reversing light" and "Dual-circuit brake system" and I doubt it ever had either of these items.... Pretty sure these 2 items didn't come out until late 1966 or early 1967. Am I wrong?
_________________ .
Paused 66 project bug
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"Relax, all right? My old man is a television repairman. He's got this ultimate set of tools. I can fix it." --- Jeff Spicoli |
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69734 Location: Phoenix Metro
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jabbiate Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2010 Posts: 7 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 5:09 pm Post subject: Re: VW Birth Certificates |
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Has anyone had there certificate come back with Country of Destination = Panama? I bought my 62 from a family here in San Diego that had passed the bug down a few times but the original owner passed a while ago and no one mentioned it being delivered to Panama. There are two additional license plate holes below the bottom edge of our California plates and figured it may have been a Tourist Delivery. Now the Panama connection has me a bit confused... Any others have a Panama County of Destination or ideas on this one? Thanks |
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69734 Location: Phoenix Metro
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jabbiate Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2010 Posts: 7 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:57 pm Post subject: Re: VW Birth Certificates |
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Good to know. I wonder if maybe the Tourist Delivery for West Coast had to go through Panama canal and then got this odd Country of Destination. If anyone else has figured this out, I would love to hear about. Thanks Everett |
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MuzzcoVW Samba Member
Joined: February 21, 2018 Posts: 1417 Location: Westfield, MA.
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 6:08 am Post subject: Re: VW Birth Certificates |
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58euro wrote: |
Ordered mine Jan 7th and received it today Feb 17th. Has anyone seen the delivered to location as being “VWoA Personal” before? Wonder if it was used for promotional use or what that means? Also has M86 which is unknown.
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I was wondering about that myself. I hadn't given it a second thought until a friend mentioned it. I have the same thing on my '75 bug certificate. |
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MuzzcoVW Samba Member
Joined: February 21, 2018 Posts: 1417 Location: Westfield, MA.
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 6:17 am Post subject: Re: VW Birth Certificates |
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Would anyone here know what "VW of America Personal" Means on the certificate? I also haven't been able to figure out the unidentifiable codes D05 M072 M247 and Y06. This is on a 1975 standard bug |
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drpete Samba Member
Joined: May 04, 2004 Posts: 773 Location: NorCal
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 2:36 pm Post subject: Re: VW Birth Certificates |
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Received the Birth Certificate for my 1960 Double Cab today, a month after ordering. A good match to the M-Code plate...
_________________ Happy to be alive. Hey Dad, Mom, wish you were here to see all this.
Pete Keesling
Driving a VW every day.....
Last edited by drpete on Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:17 am; edited 1 time in total |
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billykdf Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2022 Posts: 2 Location: Buenos Aires
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Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 6:08 am Post subject: Re: VW Birth Certificates |
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Good afternoon, I introduce myself from Buenos Aires as the recent owner of a 1958 Karmann Ghia Coupe (1959 model maybe?)
VIN: 1.930.xxx
In my case, the experience with the requested certificate was doubly surprising and at the same time contradictory: On the one hand, I was pleasantly surprised by the speed between having requested it (Oct/7/22), and physically receiving it only 10 days later (Oct/17/ 22), but also and in response to my request they advanced it to me the day after having made the payment, via email in pdf.
On the other hand, the surprise is for the worse, and I take the opportunity here to leave the concern and if I can clarify the following: in the certificate it appears as leaving the factory in May 1958, however according to the chassis numbering tables on this website and others of the brand say that according to my VIN the vehicle must have been manufactured between August 1 and December 31, 1958.
From VW Classic Parts they have not responded to my repeated emails asking for clarification on this. Even be kind enough to answer that they are analyzing it, and in that case I am willing to wait as long as necessary, but nothing.
Has something similar happened to someone? Is there any other source where you can more accurately verify the month and year of manufacture according to VIN?
Thank you very much in advance, and I look forward to your comments.
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aa390392 Samba Member
Joined: March 28, 2007 Posts: 3602 Location: So.Cal
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:11 am Post subject: Re: VW Birth Certificates |
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IMO, Seems like a whole lot of useless info for the cost...but hey to ea. there own.. _________________ .
getting grumpy & less tolerant!
55 ragtop
56 delux sedan
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billykdf Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2022 Posts: 2 Location: Buenos Aires
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 1:23 pm Post subject: Re: VW Birth Certificates |
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If clearly, it is not worth what it costs, even more so if the level of interest (or rather lack of interest) on the part of VW is this. In my case, it helped me to make sure of the data that interested me the most: the original color and we could already corroborate it in certain corners of the bodywork. Then the rest is just a minor concern, and in fact they have already confirmed to me from other forums that the date of the certificate seems to be the correct one because it corresponds to that of the Beetles of that time with whom the Karmann shared chassis, and were separated for this model. In other words, in conclusion, what is obviously not reliable is the data from the published tables. |
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Volksfolken Samba Member
Joined: June 24, 2022 Posts: 33
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:14 am Post subject: Re: VW Birth Certificates |
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I ordered mine on September 9, 2022, and it arrived yesterday, November 3. The documents were dated October 4.
It´s true that the ´Birth Certificate´ is just a couple sheets of paper, but I´m happy to have the documentation. My 1965 beetle was bought by my mother in 1966, and thereafter has been mine, so it´s spent nearly its entire life with us. Collecting and collating all the history is kind of a fun side light to driving my little car.
My beetle´s VIN says it was manufactured in September 1964, and the documents give the manufacture date as October 8, which I assume is final inspection. That makes sense, but the delivery date, in California, is October 15. I see that that´s consistent with what is shown on other certificates, but it sure seems fast. On the other hand, shipping might have been a lot more efficient when it didn´t involve cargo containers?
It´s kind of amusing to note that my beetle got here a lot faster than the certificate: one week for the beetle and a month for the certificate.
I ordered from https://www.volkswagen-classic-parts.com/en_us/service/certificate-data-sheets.html and paid $129 USD. I have to let my card company know when I plan to buy from another country -- in this case, Germany. Other people might not have to do that, but heads up that it might be an issue. |
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René R. Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2015 Posts: 1705 Location: No. Calif.
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 8:07 am Post subject: Re: VW Birth Certificates |
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As I understand it, the "delivery" date listed is actually the shipping date, when it left Germany, not when it arrived in the US. My last BC (about 7 years ago, before the current system) specifically says "left factory" rather than "delivery" for that reference. That car was manufactured on June 14 and left the factory on June 17, headed to San Francisco. I have no way of knowing when it actually arrived, but I'd guess it would have taken a few weeks. _________________ Gone but not forgotten: 1950 Hoffman split (restored in 1966) - another 1950 Hoffman split (restored in 1996) |
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Who.Me? Samba Member
Joined: July 14, 2014 Posts: 2190 Location: UK (South)
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 9:50 am Post subject: Re: VW Birth Certificates |
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Looks like they've merged the old 'data sheet' with the 'birth certificate'.
When I got mine, the certificate was like sportin-wood's example at the top of this page ^^^
They used to use the term 'delivery date' on the old data sheet, but on the certificate they called that the 'left factory on' date, which is most likely what it was (the date that it left the holding yard at the factory). _________________ Andy
Looking for info on my truck's history. Are you from Campbell California or nearby. Do you recognise it? ... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=636786 |
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Volksfolken Samba Member
Joined: June 24, 2022 Posts: 33
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:18 pm Post subject: Re: VW Birth Certificates |
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Thanks, Rene R and Who.Me? Your explanations make a lot of sense. It seems it´s a question of how the certificate preparers think about the process as they know it.
I noticed that the letter accompanying the certificate has some peculiarities of translation, which is to be expected, and is even a little charming, since it keeps a little bit of the flavor of the original language. So this sounds like something somewhat similar.
Thanks for the clarifications! |
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iowegian Samba Curmudgeon
Joined: February 16, 2005 Posts: 9826 Location: Somewhere between Dubuque and Keokuk
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:40 pm Post subject: Re: VW Birth Certificates |
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I am fortunate to have the original Service Booklet (as well as a lot of other documentation)for our '66 Beetle. In light of that, for years I have resisted the urge to buy its Birth Certificate. Am I missing something, or would it be beneficial to have the Certificate in this case?
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