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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 7:56 pm    Post subject: 1969 Karmann-Ghia Gets Stuck in 4th Gear. Why? Reply with quote

1969 Karmann-Ghia gets Stuck in 4th Gear. Why?

I cannot disengage out of 4th gear, I double clutch and triple clutch with no luck. I then have to pull over on the side of the road and turn off the motor and after 10 minutes, the engine and gear box cools down and then miraculously, it will disengage out of 4th gear. All other gears work fine and it is drivable, as long as I dont shift into 4th gear. Why?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:26 pm    Post subject: Re: 1969 Karmann-Ghia Gets Stuck in 4th Gear. Why? Reply with quote

I would start with checking the transmission mounts fluid level.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:10 am    Post subject: Re: 1969 Karmann-Ghia Gets Stuck in 4th Gear. Why? Reply with quote

yes, I checked and replace the transmission/gearbox oil and it still gets stuck in 4th gear.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:40 am    Post subject: Re: 1969 Karmann-Ghia Gets Stuck in 4th Gear. Why? Reply with quote

AJC1967Boone wrote:
yes, I checked and replace the transmission/gearbox oil and it still gets stuck in 4th gear.


Sounds like something internal. Probably rebuild time.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 12:14 pm    Post subject: Re: 1969 Karmann-Ghia Gets Stuck in 4th Gear. Why? Reply with quote

I don’t have any magic answers for you either.
Being that it only happens while it’s warmed up it might be a simple adjustment.
But I really don’t know what I’m talking about.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 1:02 pm    Post subject: Re: 1969 Karmann-Ghia Gets Stuck in 4th Gear. Why? Reply with quote

OK, I am going to do some more detective work on this....
Worst case scenario, I will rebuild or replace the transmission.
I will post all updates from my findings.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 2:55 pm    Post subject: Re: 1969 Karmann-Ghia Gets Stuck in 4th Gear. Why? Reply with quote

Check the shift couplers for slop and is your clutch pedal adjusted with 1" of Freeplay before you feel the throw-out bearing start to move?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:05 pm    Post subject: Re: 1969 Karmann-Ghia Gets Stuck in 4th Gear. Why? Reply with quote

Is the shift coupler the u shaped connector underneath the rear seat?

I can press down on the clutch about 1" and it disengages

also, I took images of the clutch pedal, this is how it was set up when I got the car.... not sure why this is set up this way...........

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:51 am    Post subject: Re: 1969 Karmann-Ghia Gets Stuck in 4th Gear. Why? Reply with quote

Your brake pedal is way too far from the firewall, and your clutch pedal shouldn't need assistance to stay in place. It looks like you're probably missing the pedal stop that bolts to the floor behind the pedal cluster to limit how far both pedals can be from the firewall.

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When you press the clutch pedal in, do you hear any scraping or movement noises coming from inside the tunnel? I'm wondering if any of the clutch cable tube welds have broken, allowing the tube to move which would create difficulty changing gears.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 8:37 pm    Post subject: Re: 1969 Karmann-Ghia Gets Stuck in 4th Gear. Why? Reply with quote

I took it out for a drive today and all the gears shift smoothly into all the gears, but again, the 4th gear gets locked in until I pull over and let the engine cool down. As long as I avoid the 4th gear, the car is operable and drives ok.

When depressing the clutch pedal, there was no scraping or movement noises coming from inside the tunnel
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 12:46 pm    Post subject: Re: 1969 Karmann-Ghia Gets Stuck in 4th Gear. Why? Reply with quote

AJC1967Boone wrote:

also, I took images of the clutch pedal, this is how it was set up when I got the car.... not sure why this is set up this way...........


It's set up that way because Bubba likes it this way. Fix that pedal cluster or stay off the road. That's beyond janky my friend!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 1:33 pm    Post subject: Re: 1969 Karmann-Ghia Gets Stuck in 4th Gear. Why? Reply with quote

Marfa61KG wrote:
AJC1967Boone wrote:

also, I took images of the clutch pedal, this is how it was set up when I got the car.... not sure why this is set up this way...........


It's set up that way because Bubba likes it this way. Fix that pedal cluster or stay off the road. That's beyond janky my friend!


Excellent advice.

If you were to get into a collision, your insurance company would laugh at you.
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