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Marcdeb
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 Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:19 pm Post subject: Re: 68 Regatta Blue Karmann Ghia Vert 22,350 Original Miles |
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| Ian Godfrey wrote: |
Marc, is it possible that's a firewall seal? not an engine tin seal.
has it got 2 'flaps'? |
No, I'm certain it's the deck seal with two flaps - the same one I've seen referred to as the "K" style. I'm sure it will do the job, but I expected I was paying extra for the German quality which would include being an exact reproduction.
I looked through pictures on BAT and I see some like my original that have longer flaps and others that have shorter flaps like this one. I bought it from CIP1 and to be honest, I've not had the best of luck with CIP1. They're not very friendly on the phone.
In this same order that arrived today, I also bought a locking gas cap which doesn't work. Good thing I didn't test it on the car as it will not unlock.
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68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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Marcdeb
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| Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:58 am Post subject: Re: 68 Regatta Blue Karmann Ghia Vert 22,350 Original Miles |
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Spent a quite a few hours under the car yesterday and today. I cleaned the underneath of the engine and transmission and then changed the transmission gear oil. Not hard to do, but it really is a messy job. I was certain I had a 17mm hex socket, but turns out I did not. I have a friend who used to be VW Mechanic 40 years ago and he had the actual Snap-on tool that the VW Dealers used.
The bottom of the transmission pan was really coated with oil. Years and years of leaking. I'm sure I'll have to pull the engine eventually to address the leaks. For now, I'm glad to see it cleaned up and know that the maintenance is done. I was also happy to see that there wasn't any metal particles on the drain plug magnet. Looks a lot better.
I also put a new fuel filter under the car and removed the one in the engine compartment.
I think the fuel line by the transmission was original as it had undercoating on it. Good thing I changed it, I noticed that it was a little wet at the firewall end where it went onto the hard line and as soon as I touched it, it started dribbling fuel on the ground.
I was hoping to put the fuel filter above the axle like I've seen in pictures, but with the AutoStick, there's a large vacuum cannister that takes up most of the space, so I it's kind of out of sight, above the heat tube.
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68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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Marcdeb
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 11:59 am Post subject: Re: 68 Regatta Blue Karmann Ghia Vert 22,350 Original Miles |
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Over all for sitting in storage for 10 or 15 years (not sure how long) between 198? to 1997, and then again 23 years between 1999 and 2022, I'm surprised that Regatta is in such good shape mechanically.
As I'm progressing through maintenance, I'm coming across some stuff that I've not read about before and I'm curious to find some answers to some questions.
I know about the oil breather tube with the rubber boot near the thermostat, but don't really understand it completely. How much seepage of oil is normal? Isn't this contributing to "oil leaks" or should there not be enough oil coming out to ever cause drips under the car? The rubber boot is missing on my car but I'll be replacing it.
I noticed that my 68 has what appears to be a rubber plug on the bottom of the tunnel near the forward end of the fork. Never noticed this before. I checked my 71 and it has a hole but no plug. Are these plugs available? And is it basically just a drain? Or is it to access something at that location?
Naturally the car does have oil drips. It would be amazing if it didn't. I see that some of the valve rod tubes have leaky seals, but it's seems like it's just enough to cause the tube to be wet but and not actually dripping. Should I be concerned?
I'm contemplating pulling the engine in the fall just to sort things out, clean everything up, fix some of the leaks, and paint or powder coat the tins. I'm not concerned with making the engine compartment look new, just preserve and keep things clean.
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68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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Ian Godfrey
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 4:31 pm Post subject: Re: 68 Regatta Blue Karmann Ghia Vert 22,350 Original Miles |
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Re the oil breather. As the engine get more worn (piston rings) you get some 'blow by' which increases crankcase pressure which leads to more oily air coming out that breather. Most of the oily air goes to the air cleaner. Usually there would be only occasional drips underneath. I wouldn't worry about the push rod tubes until you need to do other work on the engine like a valve job.
The plug in the bottom of the pan is new to me, most pans have the drain hole in case some water got in etc. Is the plug a loose fit so water could get out, or tight? |
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Marcdeb
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 6:07 pm Post subject: Re: 68 Regatta Blue Karmann Ghia Vert 22,350 Original Miles |
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| Ian Godfrey wrote: |
Re the oil breather. As the engine get more worn (piston rings) you get some 'blow by' which increases crankcase pressure which leads to more oily air coming out that breather. Most of the oily air goes to the air cleaner. Usually there would be only occasional drips underneath. I wouldn't worry about the push rod tubes until you need to do other work on the engine like a valve job.
The plug in the bottom of the pan is new to me, most pans have the drain hole in case some water got in etc. Is the plug a loose fit so water could get out, or tight? |
So cleaning the bottom of the oil breather tube once in while would make sense then.
I had never noticed the plug at the fork either. However I looked through some pictures on BAT and found plenty of other Ghias that also have the plug.
Thanks for advice. Very helpful.
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68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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rbsurfguy
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| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 4:02 am Post subject: Re: 68 Regatta Blue Karmann Ghia Vert 22,350 Original Miles |
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Hi Marc, I am interested in those lines coming off your oil pump, first pic above of underside of engine. I don't ever remember seeing that set up, of course I don't remember ever having a perfectly stock motor myself. It looks like the line running up to the right connects to your oil bath/air cleaner, but where does the other line go, the one running straight up?
Is this set up due to having an auto stick, or because it is an early model. Just curious.
Jeff
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Marcdeb
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| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 4:15 am Post subject: Re: 68 Regatta Blue Karmann Ghia Vert 22,350 Original Miles |
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Hi Jeff,
Correct, these lines are for the AutoStick transmission. The transmission uses two lubricants, there's regular Hypoid Oil in the transmission itself, and then there's the Automatic Transmission Fluid. The lines you see are for circulating the automatic transmission fluid. The oil pump on cars with an Autostick is a double pump.
One of those 2 lines runs back to the ATF reservoir in the engine compartment and the other line runs to the transmission.
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68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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rbsurfguy
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| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:39 pm Post subject: Re: 68 Regatta Blue Karmann Ghia Vert 22,350 Original Miles |
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Excellent. It's been a few years since I've seen an autostick, so good to learn something about how it works. Thanks Marc!
Jeff
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Marcdeb
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| Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 1:44 pm Post subject: Re: 68 Regatta Blue Karmann Ghia Vert 22,350 Original Miles |
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Unfortunate that the original generator was tossed when a new one was installed but I was able to find a correct original generator dated January of 1968.
Pretty close to the cars build date of April 1968. It was filthy when it arrived.
I cleaned it up and had it checked by a local shop. He put new bearings in it and gave it a clean bill of health.
Now I'm looking to buy some push on connectors. Does someone know of a source for these?
New if they exist, or maybe some old connectors salvaged from old wiring. One terminal is wider and thicker
than the other.
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68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 6:11 am Post subject: Re: 68 Regatta Blue Karmann Ghia Vert 22,350 Original Miles |
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| Marcdeb wrote: |
Unfortunate that the original generator was tossed when a new one was installed but I was able to find a correct original generator dated January of 1968.
Pretty close to the cars build date of April 1968. It was filthy when it arrived.
I cleaned it up and had it checked by a local shop. He put new bearings in it and gave it a clean bill of health.
Now I'm looking to buy some push on connectors. Does someone know of a source for these?
New if they exist, or maybe some old connectors salvaged from old wiring. One terminal is wider and thicker
than the other. |
It's great to see you returning Regatta to her original glory!
Really helps on the investment side too 
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Marcdeb
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 6:45 pm Post subject: Re: 68 Regatta Blue Karmann Ghia Vert 22,350 Original Miles |
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| kingkarmann wrote: |
It's great to see you returning Regatta to her original glory!
Really helps on the investment side too |
Thanks for the comments. She deserves to have all her correct parts put back where they belong.
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68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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Marcdeb
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| Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:51 am Post subject: Re: 68 Regatta Blue Karmann Ghia Vert 22,350 Original Miles |
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Interesting detail about the 68 Karmann Ghia. Turns out it's the only year of production where it was not possible to lock access to the fuel filler. 68 is the first year of the fuel fill flap on the fender but there's no locking mechanism, just a depression for lifting the flap. When the 69's came out they had added the locking flap operated by a lever in the glove box.
Regatta arrived with a non original aftermarket cap so the original must have gotten lost. I bought a new after market locking gas cap from CIP1 but it didn't work! Imagine that!! 
I then bought this NOS German made locking cap which looks more like what the regular VW cap looked like and it works great.
Correct Rebuilt original VW carburator from Tim @ Volkzbitz is in the mail and should arrive early next week. 
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68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:26 pm Post subject: Re: 68 Regatta Blue Karmann Ghia Vert 22,350 Original Miles |
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Nice touches!
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| Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:53 pm Post subject: Re: 68 Regatta Blue Karmann Ghia Vert 22,350 Original Miles |
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I love that Marc!
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Marcdeb
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| Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 5:36 pm Post subject: Re: 68 Regatta Blue Karmann Ghia Vert 22,350 Original Miles |
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Had the car out for a ride this evening, top down of course but it's cooling off already in Vermont and it made me realize I hadn't tested the heat to see if it worked. I've heard so many complaints about how bad the heat is in these old VWs so I was caught off guard. It works very well. Even with the top down at 45 mph. But is it normal for there to be an odor along with the heat? It's not a gas or oil smell, more like a hot musty smell.
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68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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| Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 8:22 pm Post subject: Re: 68 Regatta Blue Karmann Ghia Vert 22,350 Original Miles |
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| Marcdeb wrote: |
| Had the car out for a ride this evening, top down of course but it's cooling off already in Vermont and it made me realize I hadn't tested the heat to see if it worked. I've heard so many complaints about how bad the heat is in these old VWs so I was caught off guard. It works very well. Even with the top down at 45 mph. But is it normal for there to be an odor along with the heat? It's not a gas or oil smell, more like a hot musty smell. |
The heater in a Ghia is very efficient.
The musty smell is likely dust that’s collected from non use. I bet if you run the heater for a while it will clear up.
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Marcdeb
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| Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 2:36 am Post subject: Re: 68 Regatta Blue Karmann Ghia Vert 22,350 Original Miles |
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| Marcdeb wrote: |
| Had the car out for a ride this evening, top down of course but it's cooling off already in Vermont and it made me realize I hadn't tested the heat to see if it worked. I've heard so many complaints about how bad the heat is in these old VWs so I was caught off guard. It works very well. Even with the top down at 45 mph. But is it normal for there to be an odor along with the heat? It's not a gas or oil smell, more like a hot musty smell. |
The heater in a Ghia is very efficient.
The musty smell is likely dust that’s collected from non use. I bet if you run the heater for a while it will clear up. |
What makes the heater in a Ghia more efficient than the Beetle? Aren't the chassies mostly the same?
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68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
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