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wwwben Samba Member
Joined: September 18, 2022 Posts: 28 Location: Upper Peninsula of Michigan
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 4:17 am Post subject: Help with Pedals |
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I need to purchase new pedals and brake parts for my buggy..
I just bought it and am having trouble finding the correct parts
not much of a fabricator so stock parts would be best for me
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sailtexas186548 Samba Member
Joined: December 01, 2014 Posts: 423 Location: Kemah, Tx
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 5:40 am Post subject: Re: Help with Pedals |
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You appear to have a complete set of stock pedals and a single circuit master cylinder.
You will need a drift/punch and hammer to take the pins out, and then also something to pry the tabs back holding the pins in but they can be rebuilt provided the bushings aren’t worn out.
If you have to buy parts beyond the tabs or a bolt or some thing, it adds up quick compared to a refurbished set. I have always rebuilt mine but if you have no fab experience and they are really worn out this is probably the better route, though yours look ok to me and probably can rebuilt with no new parts and just a new master cylinder
https://socalautoparts.com/product-category/interior-parts/pedal-cluster-accessories/ _________________ it's more fun loud and dirty |
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Q-Dog Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2010 Posts: 8699 Location: Sunset, Louisiana
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wwwben Samba Member
Joined: September 18, 2022 Posts: 28 Location: Upper Peninsula of Michigan
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 7:57 am Post subject: Re: Help with Pedals |
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..the brake pedal is stuck down and that brake booster part doesn't seem to work. |
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Q-Dog Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2010 Posts: 8699 Location: Sunset, Louisiana
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:36 am Post subject: Re: Help with Pedals |
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My guess is you mean the master cylinder? You don't have a brake booster.
Can you pull the pedal up with your hand? If so, you can repair the pedal return spring and the pedal should come back up. If the pedal is stuck on the shaft you will have to rebuild the pedals. And realize your master cylinder could also be bad. Those 2 things aren't necessarily related. Your car appears to use a bus master cylinder ... pretty common on off road cars.
This is how the spring should be hooked up on your pedals.
_________________ Brian
'69 Dune Buggy
'69 Beetle Convertible
'70 Beetle |
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wwwben Samba Member
Joined: September 18, 2022 Posts: 28 Location: Upper Peninsula of Michigan
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:42 am Post subject: Re: Help with Pedals |
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I will work on that .. thanks for the help thus far... i ordered a master cylinder and found some new pedals if needed in the classifieds
I will update in a week or so! |
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Dale M. Samba Member
Joined: April 12, 2006 Posts: 20378 Location: Just a tiny bit west of Yosemite Valley
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 9:17 am Post subject: Re: Help with Pedals |
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Usually pedal assemblies don't wear out.... Spray pivots with WD 40 or BP Blaster and work it in and move pedal to loosen.... All the "wet" around assembly indicates MC is shot... _________________ “Fear The Government That Wants To Take Your Guns" - Thomas Jefferson.
"Kellison Sand Piper Roadster" For Street & Show.
"Joe Pody Sandrover" Buggy with 2180 for Autocross (Sold)
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71StandardReduction Samba Member
Joined: December 04, 2012 Posts: 715 Location: Louisiana
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wwwben Samba Member
Joined: September 18, 2022 Posts: 28 Location: Upper Peninsula of Michigan
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:24 pm Post subject: Re: Help with Pedals |
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ok, I have the pedals sorted .. but the mc will not come off the bracket .. I took the 2 bolts off the back..
any ideas?
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sailtexas186548 Samba Member
Joined: December 01, 2014 Posts: 423 Location: Kemah, Tx
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:34 pm Post subject: Re: Help with Pedals |
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BFH! _________________ it's more fun loud and dirty |
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wwwben Samba Member
Joined: September 18, 2022 Posts: 28 Location: Upper Peninsula of Michigan
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:39 pm Post subject: Re: Help with Pedals |
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sailtexas186548 wrote: |
BFH! |
I thought about that .. but it looks like its held on by a ring on the inside of the bracket..
ill go hit it a could times and see what happens |
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Dale M. Samba Member
Joined: April 12, 2006 Posts: 20378 Location: Just a tiny bit west of Yosemite Valley
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 3:49 pm Post subject: Re: Help with Pedals |
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RUST bond.... BFH.... No lock ring involved.... _________________ “Fear The Government That Wants To Take Your Guns" - Thomas Jefferson.
"Kellison Sand Piper Roadster" For Street & Show.
"Joe Pody Sandrover" Buggy with 2180 for Autocross (Sold)
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All suggestions and advice are purely my own opinion. You are free to ignore them if you wish ... |
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wwwben Samba Member
Joined: September 18, 2022 Posts: 28 Location: Upper Peninsula of Michigan
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 4:11 pm Post subject: Re: Help with Pedals |
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got it!!
Thanks!
I ordered a new MC and we will see how that goes.. |
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wwwben Samba Member
Joined: September 18, 2022 Posts: 28 Location: Upper Peninsula of Michigan
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:10 am Post subject: Re: Help with Pedals |
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I have the new MC installed .. have not tried them yet, While I was waiting for the part to come in I decided to start replacing other items on the unit .. and until I get seats in it I cant really test them.
The buggy is in rough shape so I am finding myself replacing every wire and almost all the non engine parts.
The list so far
Headlights DONE
Tail lights 50%
Seats 50%
ignition system 75%
Will be adding a winch, lightbar,mirrors, & a top |
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dustymojave Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2007 Posts: 5802 Location: Lake LA, Mojave Desert, SoCal
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 7:33 pm Post subject: Re: Help with Pedals |
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Those pedals are from a 1965 or earlier Bug. They are WAY better than the cheaper 1966+ stamped pedals. I've dealt with a couple or 3 of the later clutch pedal arms that broke off with a stock clutch. The ones you have are forged steel, like an end wrench.
To straighten the throttle pedal, use a Crescent wrench to twist it back to straight. So the roller wheel is aligned like the wheels on the ground. So it rolls fore and aft. It would be good to clean and lube the pivot of that throttle pedal.
The clutch cable being wrapped on the pedal hook is not good unless it gets a thimble installed. The cable will quickly wear through on the edge of the hook. A cable thimble is a piece of metal that fits on the inside of the loop of the cable. Should be able to get one at most any real hardware store. They carry them at my local small town Ace. They come in various sizes to fit the cable. That looks like 3/16" cable.
Any pictures of the overall car? _________________ Richard
Offroading VW based cars since 1965
Tech Inspection 1963 - 2012 SCCA/SCORE/HDRA/MORE/MDR +
Retired from building Bajas, Fiberglass Buggies and Rails in the Mojave Desert. Also Sprints & Midgets, Dry Lakes, Road Race cars. All types New and Vintage
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wwwben Samba Member
Joined: September 18, 2022 Posts: 28 Location: Upper Peninsula of Michigan
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2022 4:53 am Post subject: Re: Help with Pedals |
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dustymojave wrote: |
Those pedals are from a 1965 or earlier Bug. They are WAY better than the cheaper 1966+ stamped pedals. I've dealt with a couple or 3 of the later clutch pedal arms that broke off with a stock clutch. The ones you have are forged steel, like an end wrench.
To straighten the throttle pedal, use a Crescent wrench to twist it back to straight. So the roller wheel is aligned like the wheels on the ground. So it rolls fore and aft. It would be good to clean and lube the pivot of that throttle pedal.
The clutch cable being wrapped on the pedal hook is not good unless it gets a thimble installed. The cable will quickly wear through on the edge of the hook. A cable thimble is a piece of metal that fits on the inside of the loop of the cable. Should be able to get one at most any real hardware store. They carry them at my local small town Ace. They come in various sizes to fit the cable. That looks like 3/16" cable.
Any pictures of the overall car? |
awesome! thank you for the info and the ideas.. here is a pic of the buggy .. It is not complete yet .. but close
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dustymojave Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2007 Posts: 5802 Location: Lake LA, Mojave Desert, SoCal
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:08 pm Post subject: Re: Help with Pedals |
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Cool buggy. Looks to be a Berrien frame. _________________ Richard
Offroading VW based cars since 1965
Tech Inspection 1963 - 2012 SCCA/SCORE/HDRA/MORE/MDR +
Retired from building Bajas, Fiberglass Buggies and Rails in the Mojave Desert. Also Sprints & Midgets, Dry Lakes, Road Race cars. All types New and Vintage
SoCalBajas Member
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wwwben Samba Member
Joined: September 18, 2022 Posts: 28 Location: Upper Peninsula of Michigan
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2022 4:18 pm Post subject: Re: Help with Pedals |
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dustymojave wrote: |
Cool buggy. Looks to be a Berrien frame. |
thanks yes.. berrien frame .. that much I do know..I don't know much other than that |
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