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viiking Samba Member
Joined: May 10, 2013 Posts: 2667 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 3:15 pm Post subject: Re: Door Shimming |
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Weakened heater channels and the use of the original jack can distort the body alignment when the car is lifting up. If the heater channels are compromised at all then the body can sag over the jack mounting. _________________ 1968 1500 RHD Lotus White Beetle since birth. In the hospital for major surgery
1966 Lancia Flavia Pininfarina Coupe - in the waiting room
Discharged: 1983 Vanagon, 1974 1800 Microbus,1968 Low Light,1968 Type 3 |
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Chickensoup Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2018 Posts: 5368 Location: Good Hope, GA
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:16 pm Post subject: Re: Door Shimming |
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Ok, issue fixed. My door was sagging due to missing hinge screws. Gaps are back to perfect!
_________________ -'85 c10 5.3 LS, 222 cam, long tubes, x pipe, 3 inch spin tech's
-'05 B5.5 TDI Wagon 17in sport rims ;EGR + BSM + ASV Delete, Stage-2 Tune, straight pipe
'65 Tourist Delivery Build
'66 RIP
'69 RIP
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viiking Samba Member
Joined: May 10, 2013 Posts: 2667 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:53 pm Post subject: Re: Door Shimming |
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Gaps maybe ok but your door is still too low. If the gaps are even in the vertical plane the door needs to go up.
If you can’t get the door up then your heater channels have probably been welded in incorrectly.
Note the door trim holes and door “waist” is not correct. _________________ 1968 1500 RHD Lotus White Beetle since birth. In the hospital for major surgery
1966 Lancia Flavia Pininfarina Coupe - in the waiting room
Discharged: 1983 Vanagon, 1974 1800 Microbus,1968 Low Light,1968 Type 3 |
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Chickensoup Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2018 Posts: 5368 Location: Good Hope, GA
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:04 pm Post subject: Re: Door Shimming |
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Hi, I should have painted a more vivid picture.
All the photos I posted are as it sits.
The last photo, is the corrected gap when I pushed up with my hand.
For example, if I were to take a picture from further away while pushing with my hand, the trim holes was also line up as they do.
Thanks _________________ -'85 c10 5.3 LS, 222 cam, long tubes, x pipe, 3 inch spin tech's
-'05 B5.5 TDI Wagon 17in sport rims ;EGR + BSM + ASV Delete, Stage-2 Tune, straight pipe
'65 Tourist Delivery Build
'66 RIP
'69 RIP
Hosea 4:6 "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge" |
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viiking Samba Member
Joined: May 10, 2013 Posts: 2667 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:58 pm Post subject: Re: Door Shimming |
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Haha! You need arms like Inspector Gadget to get the right photo then.
Glad you sorted it out! Nothing more frustrating than to have doors that look out of shape. _________________ 1968 1500 RHD Lotus White Beetle since birth. In the hospital for major surgery
1966 Lancia Flavia Pininfarina Coupe - in the waiting room
Discharged: 1983 Vanagon, 1974 1800 Microbus,1968 Low Light,1968 Type 3 |
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far rider Samba Member
Joined: August 30, 2005 Posts: 771 Location: Rutland, VT
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 4:38 am Post subject: Re: Door Shimming |
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Lots of advice to wait until the body is back on the pan to set adjustments. I’m getting ready to do a body off. Passenger door gaps are off. Passenger floor pan is toast. Lower passenger hinge is slightly bent . So no sense messing with door gaps now. Do I reinforce the body now in preparation for taking it off even though gaps are wrong? It’s a 61 ragtop. Or just take it off and play with adjustments when new pan is in place? Thanks for any ideas. _________________ 67 zenith blue sunroof
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beetlenut Samba Member
Joined: May 27, 2009 Posts: 2983 Location: RI
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 7:25 pm Post subject: Re: Door Shimming |
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Well, seeing how I started this thread 9 years ago, it's safe to say my doors are all set now. If I was going to start what you're proposing, I'd jack the door until the trim line lined up, and use wedges to get the gaps as close to good as you can. Then from the inside, I'd weld a few pieces of bar stock from the "A" pillar to the "B" pillar, and then to a few spots on the door. So now the door is basically part of the body. Everything else you do from that point, will not change that orientation of the door to the opening. When your all done with the repairs, and you put the body back on, once you remove the bar stock, you should be pretty close. _________________ scrapyards are for quitters
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far rider Samba Member
Joined: August 30, 2005 Posts: 771 Location: Rutland, VT
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 4:40 am Post subject: Re: Door Shimming |
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Thanks Beetlenut. Sounds like a plan. That’s what I’ll try. _________________ 67 zenith blue sunroof
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