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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 2:15 am    Post subject: Clutch Issue Reply with quote

My 66 Beetle has an issue with the clutch.The peddle goes nearly down to the floor.
I have fully adjusted the Cable but it hasn't made a difference..
Could it be the slave or Master Cylinder? Is it something that I could fix myself
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 6:50 am    Post subject: Re: Clutch Issue Reply with quote

Callookbeetle wrote:
I have fully adjusted the Cable but it hasn't made a difference..
Could it be the slave or Master Cylinder?

NO. Because these VWs have neither !



Callookbeetle wrote:
My 66 Beetle has an issue with the clutch.The peddle goes nearly down to the floor.
I have fully adjusted the Cable but it hasn't made a difference. Is it something that I could fix myself
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Could be a broken clutch tube weld inside the tunnel.
Could be a stretched clutch cable.
Could be a broken clutch pedal hook.
Could be a broken/cracked clutch pedal itself.
Could be an issue with the clutch itself in the bell housing.
Could be an issue with throwout bearing falling off the clutch "arm" inside the bell housing.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 2:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Clutch Issue Reply with quote

What cusser says you have some checking to do.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 4:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Clutch Issue Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies.What is the easiest thing to Check first?
If the Cable is possibly stretched is it easy enough to attach another?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 4:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Clutch Issue Reply with quote

First thing I'd do is have someone work the clutch pedal while you observe the arm on the transaxle to see if its moving.

If it appears to move normally, idk, 3 or 4 inches, something is wrong with the clutch, pressure plate, or throw out bearing.

If it's not moving, or barely moving, the adjustment is way off, clutch tube is ripping off the welds inside the tunnel, the hook on the clutch arm is messed up, or the pedal itself is cracked and is tearing.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 4:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Clutch Issue Reply with quote

Callookbeetle wrote:
If the Cable is possibly stretched is it easy enough to attach another?

Depends on your skill and experience. I've replaced broken clutch cables in parking lots twice in last 43 years, once on each of my VWs.

I've had cracked clutch pedals on both, and worn clutch hooks and broken cable tube welds on both.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 9:05 am    Post subject: Re: Clutch Issue Reply with quote

I have contacted a classic car servicing company and they have said that . The thrust bearing is a potential issue and says, possibly the clutch arm, however both of those would need the engine out to rectify.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 3:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Clutch Issue Reply with quote

Or it could be a cable or pedal hook that would not require dropping the engine.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Clutch Issue Reply with quote

I think I would start with pulling the pedal assembly out and looking in the hole. That dead clutch without shuddering has been known, in my driving experience, to be the front cable tube mount that you can see with a flashlight when you remove the pedal assembly. If it breaks free up there you can find up to about 1/2 inch of lost movement between the pedal hook and the clutch arm.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Clutch Issue Reply with quote

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If it [clutch arm] appears to move normally, idk, 3 or 4 inches...

For posterity, normal travel distance for the clutch cable throwout arm at the transaxle is about 1.5 inches, max, or about the width of two fingers held together.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Clutch Issue Reply with quote

Busstom wrote:
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If it [clutch arm] appears to move normally, idk, 3 or 4 inches...

For posterity, normal travel distance for the clutch cable throwout arm at the transaxle is about 1.5 inches, max, or about the width of two fingers held together.


I stand corrected. I was guesstimating.
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