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a smith
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8/11/22: down to $29,900 |
Might as well continue my trend of following the decrementing price...
Made a stop at something like 27 or 26.5 a few weeks back...now down to $25k.
I don't think most people want to plunk down that kind of dough for a totally incomplete project that may or may not have all the parts that go with it. If it was, say $20k, and a different color, like polar or strato silver, or diamond green or diamond grey, I'd be all over it. |
I could be wrong here but isn't the fuel tank in backwards? |
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finster
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| Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 11:09 am Post subject: Re: Official whine about Ovals and Oval parts thread |
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^ yes it is but perhaps just resting there and not hooked-up etc given the car's state of assembly
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EVfun
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| Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 10:28 am Post subject: Re: Official whine about Ovals and Oval parts thread |
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| Busstom wrote: |
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8/11/22: down to $29,900 |
Might as well continue my trend of following the decrementing price...
Made a stop at something like 27 or 26.5 a few weeks back...now down to $25k.
I don't think most people want to plunk down that kind of dough for a totally incomplete project that may or may not have all the parts that go with it. If it was, say $20k, and a different color, like polar or strato silver, or diamond green or diamond grey, I'd be all over it. |
I could be wrong here but isn't the fuel tank in backwards? |
Yes, but that would be the least of my concerns with the front of that car. I notice there is a spare tire cover blocking my view of the inner nose sheet metal. On its own not too concerning, but then I notice that the body has no hood seal restraining strip on the body or front apron. That would leave me concerned with just how much rework the nose has seen, and the quality of that work.
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tcoop1100
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| Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 4:15 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Ovals and Oval parts thread |
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Old rant, I know (and maybe anal, too), but I thought "original" meant "unrestored", not painted, new interior, etc. One of my MANY pet peeves. 
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ecallaway
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| Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:44 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Ovals and Oval parts thread |
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Its like every model of bug had an orgy and this was the product. Bizarre. |
Now that's funny ^^^
I have to say, at $22.5, for a dealer sale, it does seem competitively priced if bright red Frankenstein is okay with the buyer.
Adding picture for posterity...
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Not just a Frankenstein on the body parts but the chassis is also probably not 56. And the VIN# is missing a digit to be able to figure out what's what. This is down the street from me so I might go check it out in person just to see what they are trying to get away with and whether they even know how wrong it all is. |
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oldzwit
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| Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 6:21 am Post subject: Re: Official whine about Ovals and Oval parts thread |
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| Saw this posted in the classifieds and see that it has a body number cut from another front apron and screwed on to where it should be? Went back to look again and that photo had been removed. Seems there were a few comments asking about it being matching numbers on f-book and it got deleted. https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php...M6OEyCzg7s |
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a smith
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| Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 12:22 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Ovals and Oval parts thread |
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| Saw this posted in the classifieds and see that it has a body number cut from another front apron and screwed on to where it should be? Went back to look again and that photo had been removed. Seems there were a few comments asking about it being matching numbers on f-book and it got deleted. https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2578894 |
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Is that legal? At the very least it seems unethical. |
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EverettB
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| Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:05 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Ovals and Oval parts thread |
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| Saw this posted in the classifieds and see that it has a body number cut from another front apron and screwed on to where it should be? Went back to look again and that photo had been removed. Seems there were a few comments asking about it being matching numbers on f-book and it got deleted. https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2578894 |
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Is that legal? At the very least it seems unethical. |
I don't know about legality since that's not the VIN/Chassis # but I'm also wondering what's the point?
I don't see any metal missing so wouldn't the real body # be under it?
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oldzwit
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| Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 7:04 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Ovals and Oval parts thread |
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| Looks like they removed the “original engine” part of the add too… not so matching numbers?? |
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EverettB
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| Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:11 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Ovals and Oval parts thread |
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| Looks like they removed the “original engine” part of the add too… not so matching numbers?? |
It still says "Has the original 36 hp engine"
He lists the VIN as # 1-0746112
I can see the deleted pics and he had a picture of engine # 1-0900082
These are both from 11/54 so if it's not original, it's super close.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2022 5:52 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Ovals and Oval parts thread |
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That hot lil’ double up
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a smith
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| Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:14 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Ovals and Oval parts thread |
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That hot lil’ double up |
I believe they bought it from there back in 2016 |
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Busstom
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| Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:08 am Post subject: Re: Official whine about Ovals and Oval parts thread |
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| a smith wrote: |
| Busstom wrote: |
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8/11/22: down to $29,900 |
Might as well continue my trend of following the decrementing price...
Made a stop at something like 27 or 26.5 a few weeks back...now down to $25k.
I don't think most people want to plunk down that kind of dough for a totally incomplete project that may or may not have all the parts that go with it. If it was, say $20k, and a different color, like polar or strato silver, or diamond green or diamond grey, I'd be all over it. |
I could be wrong here but isn't the fuel tank in backwards? |
Yes, but that would be the least of my concerns with the front of that car. I notice there is a spare tire cover blocking my view of the inner nose sheet metal. On its own not too concerning, but then I notice that the body has no hood seal restraining strip on the body or front apron. That would leave me concerned with just how much rework the nose has seen, and the quality of that work. |
Drrrropped again, $23k. Darned near 30% reduction from original posting. |
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esde
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| Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:15 am Post subject: Re: Official whine about Ovals and Oval parts thread |
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| Saw this posted in the classifieds and see that it has a body number cut from another front apron and screwed on to where it should be? Went back to look again and that photo had been removed. Seems there were a few comments asking about it being matching numbers on f-book and it got deleted. https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2578894 |
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Is that legal? At the very least it seems unethical. |
I don't know about legality since that's not the VIN/Chassis # but I'm also wondering what's the point?
I don't see any metal missing so wouldn't the real body # be under it? |
I've run into this several times. If the car has been, or needs to be repaired with a different front clip, what do you do? Or if you use a new panel from Virtanen?
I have tig welded the old number in several times, keeping photos of the before and after to explain why it was done if I ever was asked. But not everyone can weld and most welders would not take that liability.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:26 am Post subject: Re: Official whine about Ovals and Oval parts thread |
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| a smith wrote: |
| Busstom wrote: |
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8/11/22: down to $29,900 |
Might as well continue my trend of following the decrementing price...
Made a stop at something like 27 or 26.5 a few weeks back...now down to $25k.
I don't think most people want to plunk down that kind of dough for a totally incomplete project that may or may not have all the parts that go with it. If it was, say $20k, and a different color, like polar or strato silver, or diamond green or diamond grey, I'd be all over it. |
I could be wrong here but isn't the fuel tank in backwards? |
Yes, but that would be the least of my concerns with the front of that car. I notice there is a spare tire cover blocking my view of the inner nose sheet metal. On its own not too concerning, but then I notice that the body has no hood seal restraining strip on the body or front apron. That would leave me concerned with just how much rework the nose has seen, and the quality of that work. |
Drrrropped again, $23k. Darned near 30% reduction from original posting. |
I am facing this dilemma from the other side right now. I have a 57 ragtop to unload that's completely apart. As much as I don't have the time, I think I need to get it back together so that any prospective buyer can see that it has all of the correct parts. I've never seen a disassembled car go for close to asking price, but I have seen plenty of complete projects sell for way too much.
That said, what's a good price on an oval rag that has had channels and pans done? Has correct seats, bumpers, fenders, hood, glass, pan, etc. Have a 36hp case that is very close but I do not think matching for the car. Major welding complete, needs body work, paint, interior.
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janerick3
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| Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:50 am Post subject: Re: Official whine about Ovals and Oval parts thread |
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The original body number should start with 66.....
I liked it better with the full Cali treatment as seen on the consignment site.
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lardawge
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| Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:57 am Post subject: Re: Official whine about Ovals and Oval parts thread |
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| esde wrote: |
| Busstom wrote: |
| EVfun wrote: |
| a smith wrote: |
| Busstom wrote: |
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8/11/22: down to $29,900 |
Might as well continue my trend of following the decrementing price...
Made a stop at something like 27 or 26.5 a few weeks back...now down to $25k.
I don't think most people want to plunk down that kind of dough for a totally incomplete project that may or may not have all the parts that go with it. If it was, say $20k, and a different color, like polar or strato silver, or diamond green or diamond grey, I'd be all over it. |
I could be wrong here but isn't the fuel tank in backwards? |
Yes, but that would be the least of my concerns with the front of that car. I notice there is a spare tire cover blocking my view of the inner nose sheet metal. On its own not too concerning, but then I notice that the body has no hood seal restraining strip on the body or front apron. That would leave me concerned with just how much rework the nose has seen, and the quality of that work. |
Drrrropped again, $23k. Darned near 30% reduction from original posting. |
I am facing this dilemma from the other side right now. I have a 57 ragtop to unload that's completely apart. As much as I don't have the time, I think I need to get it back together so that any prospective buyer can see that it has all of the correct parts. I've never seen a disassembled car go for close to asking price, but I have seen plenty of complete projects sell for way too much.
That said, what's a good price on an oval rag that has had channels and pans done? Has correct seats, bumpers, fenders, hood, glass, pan, etc. Have a 36hp case that is very close but I do not think matching for the car. Major welding complete, needs body work, paint, interior. |
That really depends on the quality of the metalwork and who is buying it. I can't tell you how many people post "Metalwork complete" and it was done by a complete hack and needed to be redone. If it was a reputable shop and you have all the pictures to back up the quality, it could go for a decent price. Those that know what it costs to have it done and the wait time to get in a shop would pay for it.
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