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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 2:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Removing aftermarket paint to get OG paint Reply with quote

I started with a can of Zip Strip that I found in the garage. It's older though, and had the Methylene Chloride, so it worked really well.
I ran out of that and have been using this.
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You can't get stripper with methylene chloride anymore, so it doesn't work as well. It just takes longer to soften the paint and I have to apply it more often. I've been applying the stripper with a rag, wait a minute, then use a plastic scraper to scrape it off. Once most of it's off, I put a dab of stripper on steel wool and take the rest of it off. The paint really loads up the steel wool so I've been going through a ton of it. Lots of rags and lots of steel wool. Then a final wipe with acetone on a rag.

I've been finding lots of bare spots that some PO sanded down, plus some odd random spots of bondo in places that didn't need it.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Removing aftermarket paint to get OG paint Reply with quote

I'm liking the "layered" look on some of the beauties in this thread. Kinda displays a lot of history and character...and the old splittys wear it well.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 12:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Removing aftermarket paint to get OG paint Reply with quote

Hey guys. Thanks for all the info in this thread.

I just recently purchased my first bay window bus. It's a 71 deluxe and the og paint was covered with what appears to be some white spray paint. In some spots I could see the OG Kansas Beige show through so I wanted to test out removal of that to expose the paint. I used Goof Off Pro Strength Graffiti Remover, and some standard 0000 Fine Steel Wool. For when it would get gunked up with the paint in the heavily painted spots I would use a brand new piece of steel wool to come behind one that was mainly used to wipe the material off the paint.

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A shot of the drivers side front of the original condition before removing the spray paint
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A shot of the same side after trying out the Graffiti Remover on the door and side panel
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Images from the same side after removing the paint
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Expecting some warmer weather this week and will get out there to clean up the OG paint a bit. Once I get it to the shop the rust work will begin but wanted to make some progress on something in the interim. Will post updates.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Removing aftermarket paint to get OG paint Reply with quote

@Iamdave1087

Looking good!

You seem to be making short work of the white removal there. Do you have to neutralize the graffitti remover with water after you've removed the paint? Or is that only for more robust strippers?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 6:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Removing aftermarket paint to get OG paint Reply with quote

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Looking good!

You seem to be making short work of the white removal there. Do you have to neutralize the graffitti remover with water after you've removed the paint? Or is that only for more robust strippers?


Thanks @Larry Engelmann!

What I found in areas that had heavy paint, I had to clear off as much as I could with a piece of steel wool that didn’t have residue caked on to remove what was left from the first pass.

If I found it to be cloudy following I would hit with a second application lightly and wipe down again with a clean piece of steel wool.

Then lastly, I’d take a microfiber towel with water and some dish soap to cut through the remaining residue. By the time I got to the other side of the bus I found a bit of a rhythm with the process.

Tonight I buffed and polished to see how much luster I could get. Finishing up a test section tomorrow will send updated pics of finished product.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 6:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Removing aftermarket paint to get OG paint Reply with quote

So over the last week or so I finished up the project of removing and old spray on paint job from a past owner in the far distant past lol.

I continued to hit every panel with the Goof Off Professional Strength Graffiti Remover mentioned in my previous post.

On each panel/door in the areas that aren't completely rusted and will be cut out in the restoration process, I continued hitting them with the graffiti remover in conjunction with 0000 steel wool. Some spots were rough and required several applications, steel wool then repeat. The areas heavily painted and where the panels were likely prepped a bit better were tough. It would leave white swirl marks behind (the previous paint applied was a white spray paint or rust oleum type). I would let the swirl marks set and hit the rest of the panel. Then I would return to those areas and hit them again and repeat the process.

After I finished the removal of as much of the old paint as possible, I polished with a moderate cut compound on all the panels and wiped down. Following, I applied a Yellow Wax to all the panels and wiped down.

Below you will find pictures after completing. Next up, rust repair. A tad out of order but I wanted to see if I could get the OG paint on full display to get a pulse on how to finish the project if I take it all the way. Now that we're getting some warm days here and there I'll get the wheels and tires off to put on the new wheels and tires my father has sitting for the bus and get it up to his shop.

At that point we'll start digging into the rust repairs and go from there. Just bought a '68 Beetle that I'm going to shoot to get on the road to have something for the summer while this project is underway. Overall a pretty rewarding small portion of the project. Thanks all for the help in this thread from all the previous commenters.

The Finished Product
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Front of the Bus, left the rough scratches where it was likely driven through the woods surrounding the farm where it came from here in New Jersey. I left the VW logo outline which I thought was a cool touch.


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Passenger Side Low Angle Before and After

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Rear of Bus

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2022 2:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Removing aftermarket paint to get OG paint Reply with quote

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Nice work! Looks like it holds a shine well too:)
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2022 2:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Removing aftermarket paint to get OG paint Reply with quote

Thanks @larry Engelmann!
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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2022 8:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Removing aftermarket paint to get OG paint Reply with quote

I wanted to do something with Ruby, she is not here, but her decklid is, so tried getting the red and orange (a clear mistake by the painter) off the original paint.
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Most of the time, the Motsenbocker's and grey Scotch Bright were doing nothing and by the time started to do something, was taking all three layers off, why?

Also, why the odd scratches through into the factory primer despite a circular motion?
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At this point in time, regretting this, seems should have stuck with the random orbital and rubbing compound, especially as leaves far more natural and therefore, aesthetically pleasing, wear patches.

Thanks in advance for any help. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Removing aftermarket paint to get OG paint Reply with quote

Here’s a few decklids I’ve worked on over the last few months.

Before- Wolfsburg dove blue decklid

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Before- Fire Engine Red 58 decklid

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Before- postal yellow 58 decklid


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 10:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Removing aftermarket paint to get OG paint Reply with quote

Wow, nice work, any tips on products or techniques?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 7:34 am    Post subject: Re: Removing aftermarket paint to get OG paint Reply with quote

I second Everett's impression, great work indeed!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:46 am    Post subject: Re: Removing aftermarket paint to get OG paint Reply with quote

EverettB wrote:
Wow, nice work, any tips on products or techniques?


I'd like to know them, too. I have a similar situation, but with dried boiled linseed oil.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 10:02 am    Post subject: Re: Removing aftermarket paint to get OG paint Reply with quote

Thanks guys!! Most important part of stripping paint is staying patient, as each old paint job reacts differently. The dove blue decklid above only had 1 repaint of that white. The white came right off just wiping it with acetone. The fire truck red one was more difficult as it had 4 old paint jobs. Took my time working in small sections using steel wool and acetone to break through the layers and some points needed to be hit with acetone on Q tips. Tough small sections got Q tips wrapped in steel wool and then dipped in acetone. The postal yellow decklid had 5 paint jobs on top of it but went a little quicker. First couple layers were so dry and crappy that a razor blade flaked those right off. Then I used steel wool and acetone to bust through the last few layers similar to how I finished the fire truck red decklid. Going really slow and focusing on small sections ensures that you save as much of the paint as possible no matter what the condition of the paint is underneath.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:29 am    Post subject: Re: Removing aftermarket paint to get OG paint Reply with quote

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58euro wrote:
Thanks guys!! Most important part of stripping paint is staying patient, as each old paint job reacts differently. The dove blue decklid above only had 1 repaint of that white. The white came right off just wiping it with acetone. The fire truck red one was more difficult as it had 4 old paint jobs. Took my time working in small sections using steel wool and acetone to break through the layers and some points needed to be hit with acetone on Q tips. Tough small sections got Q tips wrapped in steel wool and then dipped in acetone. The postal yellow decklid had 5 paint jobs on top of it but went a little quicker. First couple layers were so dry and crappy that a razor blade flaked those right off. Then I used steel wool and acetone to bust through the last few layers similar to how I finished the fire truck red decklid. Going really slow and focusing on small sections ensures that you save as much of the paint as possible no matter what the condition of the paint is underneath.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2022 7:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Removing aftermarket paint to get OG paint Reply with quote

Here’s a little insight into the new paint strippers out there since they don’t have methylene chloride in them anymore .you shouldn’t put it on with a brush.brushing leaves air pockets on the surface of the stripper . You should use a bondo spreader and put a nice thick wipe on it . After you apply it cover it with a piece of plastic . Let it sit for a little while and see if that works better . I have a body shop and I feel your pain with these new strippers.
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