Door Sill Seal

[Sofia74]

Does the door sill have its own seal? Below is a picture of the sill I removed during disassembly about 5 years ago. Has a seal. The kit of seals I bought does not have one like this, but the seal seems to fit very well over the hump in the sill. Looks like it belongs there. Should I look for one since it didn’t come with the kit?
Thanks.

[Marcdeb]

No such seal. Install just the door sill.
This was likely an attempt to stop a water leak.
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[Sofia74]

Good to know. Thank you.

[rbsurfguy]

Make sure you check out the body leaks manual here https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/looklisten_14.php

Under that sill should be a small hole for any water that runs down the door trim, the rear wind lace should loop under the sill as well to guide any water, and looks like a small line of silicone can direct any water into the hole. See page 5.

Jeff
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[Sofia74]

Thanks, Jeff. Amazing what info is out there and available. I had not seen this before. Back home now after a week there with the car. Got a lot done. Less than I would have liked but drove her around the neighborhood. No glass, trunk or engine lid but I did have carpet(!) and a lot of less-than-obvious work done.
We took a video of the drive but my IT skills are minimal so not sure how I can post that here on Samba.... Open to any suggestions.

[Peter D.]

If you look at page five of that PDF it illustrated a rubber seal under the sill that keeps water flowing into that hole in the top of the rocker.

I recall it being there when I took my 64 apart. No one sells it but I think a thin piece of rubber or some insulation from the hardware store could work.
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[Marcdeb]

[tri356]

I don't believe that's a rubber seal underneath the door sill. Rather, it's something like 3M strip caulk (page 5 itself references 'sealing strip D19'. The 3M product can be left as a strip, and used on the sill as shown, or, it can be molded and put over the side spear mounting clips inside the doors, as shown on page 3 of that Body Leaks pdf.

Mike

[rbsurfguy]

Since my rockers, and sills, were replaced, I am missing that drain hole, does anyone have a measurement on where that hole sits? Measurement from the B pillar? I need to drill it out so I can put the caulk to guide any water. Or am I good to just guestimate?
Jeff
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[Evil_Fiz]

II hope these pictures help. The hole is dimpled to create a small basin for the water to flow into.

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[rbsurfguy]

Thank you Emil, very helpful. Since the body guys didn't leave that seam, the picture will help me to estimate where to tap that hole, and I'll find something a little larger to dimple it.
Jeff
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2012 Passat-Sold


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Jeff's 71 Vert Restoration/Reassembly http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6...highlight=

[Exnermobiles]

And here you’ll find more details how the water is supposed to be guided to this door sill drain hole:

This picture is an extract from a VW “Look, Listen, Do It Better” booklet (No. 14): Body Leaks - Karmann Ghia

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/looklisten_14.php
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[rbsurfguy]

Thank you Sir, I posted the same information above, but appreciate the backup!!
Jeff
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2019 VW Atlas 4Motion
2012 Passat-Sold


See my build on The Samba at:
Jeff's 71 Vert Restoration/Reassembly http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6...highlight=

[Exnermobiles]

Oh, thanks Jeff - I had missed that while reading this post.

Anyway, one picture is worth thousand words they say...
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[Braukuche]

It’s like they designed the car to rust from the inside out…
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