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Bonesberg55
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 Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 2:07 pm Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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I see where Ford regretfully has to raise the prices of 2023 F150 Lightning models to $52,000-$97,000 due to supplier shortages. What's more is that the range is reduced to 100 miles if you're towing a trailer. They've already got thousands of ICVs sitting in lots waiting for computer chips. If the government stays out of it, Ford will either be forced to lower prices or go out of business. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that its the latter.
They've got us by the balls. The auto companies got one and the oil companies have the other. |
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nsracing
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| Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:07 pm Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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Some people will freeze their butts off this winter...going wind or solar for power.
I like gas heat - and if that craps out, I got lots of logs for the fireplace. |
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skills@eurocarsplus
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| Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 10:05 pm Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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| Bonesberg55 wrote: |
| I see where Ford regretfully has to raise the prices of 2023 F150 Lightning models to $52,000-$97,000 due to "supplier shortages" |
funny, the last price jump of 7k was exactly the same amount of the gov't subsidy to buy an EV
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Some people will freeze their butts off this winter...going wind or solar for power.
I like gas heat - and if that craps out, I got lots of logs for the fireplace. |
on 12/14/20 I paid 1.87/gallon for home heating oil. right now it's 5.09/gallon...more than double...almost triple what it was not even 2 years ago.
we usually do a tank/tank and a spit per year. I couldn't imagine if we had some pig of a house where you're calling every 4-6 weeks for oil.
I watched it like a hawk and grabbed it a few weeks ago a 3.90/gal. it was literally there for like 72 hours then jumped to 4.02, 4.16, 4,45 and as I write this it's five-oh-fucking-nine a gallon.
hope everyone shitting bricks can burn those bricks. OPECKER has our idiot in chief literally over a barrel. once a few elderly are found in their homes stiff as a frozen hot pocket we'll see if there are any changes
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sb001
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finster
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| Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 7:29 am Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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| skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
| once a few elderly are found in their homes stiff as a frozen hot pocket we'll see if there are any changes |
doubt it. didn't we learn from covid that the elderly are expendable 
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DeathRay64
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| Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 8:40 am Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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| finster wrote: |
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| once a few elderly are found in their homes stiff as a frozen hot pocket we'll see if there are any changes |
doubt it. didn't we learn from covid that the elderly are expendable |
Don’t fret… there will be more than just elderly suffering this winter.
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chrisflstf
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| Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 8:43 am Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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| Ev's on fire in fla. Not easy for fire dept to put them out. Not good |
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blankc72
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| Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:00 am Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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| finster wrote: |
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| once a few elderly are found in their homes stiff as a frozen hot pocket we'll see if there are any changes |
doubt it. didn't we learn from covid that the elderly are expendable |
Well, there would be a slight increase in the availability of used cars on the market. |
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Who.Me? 
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| Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:11 am Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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I quite like the Civic EV (the Honda E). It's slightly bonkers.
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skills@eurocarsplus
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| Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:24 am Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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Well, there would be a slight increase in the availability of used cars on the market. |
always a bright side, right? 
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
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| Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
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| Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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TDCTDI
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| Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:56 am Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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$115,000…. People have lost their fu#^%ng minds.
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TDCTDI
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| Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:03 pm Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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Ford did better….
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GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
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sb001
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| Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:33 pm Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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$115,000…. People have lost their fu#^%ng minds. |
can't stand THE FAST LANE channel. F*** these guys. Especially that little twat son of his. You can just tell he's never had to work for anything in his fucking life.
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blankc72
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| Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:35 pm Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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$115,000…. People have lost their fu#^%ng minds. |
$114,900. That's what I paid in 2015 for my 3 bed 2 bath house with 2 car garage sitting on 2.4 acres in Fl. Wish GM never got bailed out back in 2009. There would be more room for better automakers if they went under. |
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Who.Me?
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| Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 2:13 pm Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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$114,900. That's what I paid in 2015 for my 3 bed 2 bath house with 2 car garage sitting on 2.4 acres in Fl. |
Lucky you. 
That would have been around £79K in 2015. At that time, the average UK property price was £272K. Bear in mind - that was our average.
In 2015, in the UK; £79K would have bought you a shit hole in a rough town with no land whatsoever.
What you're seeing today is just economics catching up with you.
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Andy
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sb001
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| Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 2:52 pm Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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$114,900. That's what I paid in 2015 for my 3 bed 2 bath house with 2 car garage sitting on 2.4 acres in Fl. |
So, a time share?
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blankc72
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| Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 3:01 pm Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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$114,900. That's what I paid in 2015 for my 3 bed 2 bath house with 2 car garage sitting on 2.4 acres in Fl. |
Lucky you.
That would have been around £79K in 2015. At that time, the average UK property price was £272K. Bear in mind - that was our average.
In 2015, in the UK; £79K would have bought you a shit hole in a rough town with no land whatsoever.
What you're seeing today is just economics catching up with you. |
Point being that General Motors made an electric vehicle that cost as much as a house and how wasteful it is driving around in something that weighs almost 5 tons. Just like every other $80,000 mall crawler truck on the road. I was under the impression that electric vehicles were supposed to “save the environment.”
Not how “lucky” I was. And house prices where i live are cyclical. They’ll drop again. |
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blankc72
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| Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 3:59 pm Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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$114,900. That's what I paid in 2015 for my 3 bed 2 bath house with 2 car garage sitting on 2.4 acres in Fl. |
So, a time share? |
No |
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KTPhil
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| Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 4:14 pm Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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| Ev's on fire in fla. Not easy for fire dept to put them out. Not good |
Funny how mainstream news can only verify one instance, but a social media post quoted by Fox claims "a ton."
Makes for a good story, but facts matter, too, or used to. |
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chrisflstf
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| Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 6:13 pm Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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The lame stream media wont report stuff like that. But here is a fact for you
Water required to put out an Ev fire -8000 gallons
Water required to put out an Ice fire -1000 gallons
California is water short already, but go ahead, lol |
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