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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:15 am    Post subject: Barndoor brake Reservoir ? Reply with quote

Asking the pros here if Barndoors used this metal type reservoir? If so what years. Early split window bugs did.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. All years, unless I am not aware the super early Barndoors are different.

It extended into non-Barndoors too.

Progressive Refinements says:
11 Apr. 1957
Chassis # 248 322
Brake Fluid Reservoir
Now: rubber cap
Formerly: Screwed cover

Now: screwed flange, 19mm
Formerly: 27mm
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome! Thanks Everette!

Do these early numbers mean anything? At one end what I think is a number 16? The outer diameter of master cylinder is smaller compared to an August 55 master cylinder.
Is there a thread somewhere pointing out the differences in years?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Usually that number is the diameter of the master cylinder.

For instance 19 or 22 meaning 19mm or 22mm.

Barndoors are 19mm, 55-67 are 22mm.

16 is for ?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EverettB wrote:
Usually that number is the diameter of the master cylinder.

For instance 19 or 22 meaning 19mm or 22mm.

Barndoors are 19mm, 55-67 are 22mm.

16 is for ?


And very early barndoors are 22mm
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this simply must be a 16mm master. probably out of some other German car brand, maybe DkW, Cologne Ford or similar. They must have used the same standard reservoir on different size cylinders, which they also did later and still do, although nowadays the standard classic car reservoir is made of plastic of course.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tonny_Larsen wrote:
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Usually that number is the diameter of the master cylinder.

For instance 19 or 22 meaning 19mm or 22mm.

Barndoors are 19mm, 55-67 are 22mm.

16 is for ?


And very early barndoors are 22mm


Thank you Tonny.

I also assume the very early reservoirs might be steel instead of aluminum?

Beetle thread:
Brake fluid reservoir, Steel vs. Aluminum
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The remains on both my 52 and 51 were steel I think, I had assumed that the one in the pic above was steel (zinc plated) too as it looks rusty on a few spots on the side of it?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steel one are 1952 and down bug and bus
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brian_Mccue wrote:
Steel one are 1952 and down bug and bus


That's the info I found in the spit window bug threads.. I'm thinking what Everette found was for the aluminum canisters.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

52panelvan wrote:
The remains on both my 52 and 51 were steel I think, I had assumed that the one in the pic above was steel (zinc plated) too as it looks rusty on a few spots on the side of it?


Yes steel canister. Here's the metal Ate cap Sad
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EverettB wrote:
Tonny_Larsen wrote:
EverettB wrote:
Usually that number is the diameter of the master cylinder.

For instance 19 or 22 meaning 19mm or 22mm.

Barndoors are 19mm, 55-67 are 22mm.

16 is for ?


And very early barndoors are 22mm


Thank you Tonny.

I also assume the very early reservoirs might be steel instead of aluminum?

Beetle thread:
Brake fluid reservoir, Steel vs. Aluminum


Yes, for sure steel. The same as on a early beetle
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Barndoor brake Reservoir ? Reply with quote

CaLiBus wrote:
Asking the pros here if Barndoors used this metal type reservoir? If so what years. Early split window bugs did.

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That looks curved at the bottom.
This reservoir was on my Jan '56 westy when I got it:
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The same type was on my June '53 bus when I got it, and it had '66 tags on at the time.
You can't see it very well:
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. Mine does appear to be more round at the bottom.

Here's the bottom stamping just like what you have. The reservoir is definitely Ate. The Ate cap fits perfect. It could be an earlier or older version.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:21 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor brake Reservoir ? Reply with quote

What are people using for reservoir gaskets 24 and 27?

Ie who supplies these?
Are they rubber, or the fibre type?

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(Ref gasket 27…is that internal diameter 22mm, external diameter 27mm?)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 10:48 am    Post subject: Gasket 27 Reply with quote

I actually have gasket 27…it’s a copper ring, approx 22/27 diameters.

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So would like to know about gasket 24…and gasket 25 come to think of it
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 5:53 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor brake Reservoir ? Reply with quote

RockStock wrote:
What are people using for reservoir gaskets 24 and 27?

Ie who supplies these?
Are they rubber, or the fibre type?

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#24 Rubber Seal

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2023 1:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Barndoor brake Reservoir ? Reply with quote

Virtanen sells copper seal #27.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2213844
WW one is probably the same
https://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=N138272
BBT
https://www.bbt4vw.com/en/catalogue/brakes-shocks-...4iALf6lE44

Still unsure what material gasket #25 is.

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#24 Rubber Seal

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Please can someone post up the internal and external diameter of rubber seal #24?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Barndoor brake Reservoir ? Reply with quote

Inner diameter is 50 millimeters.

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Outer diameter is 66.5 millimeters.

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Thickness is 1.2 millimeters.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 10:13 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor brake Reservoir ? Reply with quote

Thank you Crashbox! Very kind.
Does anyone have a spare seal?
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