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| I wish someone would make repops of these disc brakes ..come on guys.. |
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| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 3:12 pm Post subject: Re: Maico disk brakes |
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That would be cool. Heck, I'd like a wide-5 front disc brake option for K&L Bugs that fit behind 14 inch wheels. I watch this thread because a set of Maico brakes would get me to fit 15 inch wheels on my buggy! They so unusual that they cannot help but be cool.
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| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 3:21 pm Post subject: Re: Maico disk brakes |
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| I wish someone would make repops of these disc brakes ..come on guys.. |
Manufacturing brakes is a huge liability investment.
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| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 4:05 pm Post subject: Re: Maico disk brakes |
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| I wish someone would make repops of these disc brakes ..come on guys.. |
Manufacturing brakes is a huge liability investment. |
I bet if empi made kits everything would be good ...
Let's all email empi and demand these annular brakes to be back on the market... |
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| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 4:08 pm Post subject: Re: Maico disk brakes |
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| Glenn wrote: |
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| I wish someone would make repops of these disc brakes ..come on guys.. |
Manufacturing brakes is a huge liability investment. |
I bet if empi made kits everything would be good ...
Let's all email empi and demand these annular brakes to be back on the market... |
You be the first to load your family in the VW and take it for a drive on the interstate. Let me know how that works out for you.
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| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 4:12 pm Post subject: Re: Maico disk brakes |
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| Glenn wrote: |
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| Glenn wrote: |
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| I wish someone would make repops of these disc brakes ..come on guys.. |
Manufacturing brakes is a huge liability investment. |
I bet if empi made kits everything would be good ...
Let's all email empi and demand these annular brakes to be back on the market... |
You be the first to load your family in the VW and take it for a drive on the interstate. Let me know how that works out for you. |
You swear that they are worst than drums brakes..and I know a quite a few folks that drive with drums brakes so what's the difference... |
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Fishynos72
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| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 4:38 pm Post subject: Re: Maico disk brakes |
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Figure I can actually chime in here now.
Had my set on the car 6ish months. Fairly intensive work required to recondition the calipers. Bought off a member here and shipped halfway around the world.
You'll notice my alloy hub section appears to be a more basic casting shape, similar to the steel version sold in the USA. I've yet to come across another set the same.
They don't feel worlds better than the stock drum setup. But they do seem to avoid fade for a lot longer than drums when pushed
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| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 4:55 pm Post subject: Re: Maico disk brakes |
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Figure I can actually chime in here now.
Had my set on the car 6ish months. Fairly intensive work required to recondition the calipers. Bought off a member here and shipped halfway around the world.
You'll notice my alloy hub section appears to be a more basic casting shape, similar to the steel version sold in the USA. I've yet to come across another set the same.
They don't feel worlds better than the stock drum setup. But they do seem to avoid fade for a lot longer than drums when pushed |
So if you have survived for 6 months driving on them than they are not junk like others may seem to say ...
Your kit seems to look more like the 356 version of the annular brakes but with cutouts maybe someone before you did some modification to them?? I could be wrong but that's what they seem to look like ..... |
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Fishynos72
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So if you have survived for 6 months driving on them than they are not junk like others may seem to say ...
Your kit seems to look more like the 356 version of the annular brakes but with cutouts maybe someone before you did some modification to them?? I could be wrong but that's what they seem to look like ..... |
They're not junk by any means. They're complicated in their design by modern standards. For Instance the slider setup to allow the caliper to stay central is average at best leading to uneven pad wear. Asides from that and their difficulty to bleed, they're fine in use.
While being cut up Porsche brakes would be a cool aspect, I can confirm they have maico numbers cast into them.
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| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 5:06 pm Post subject: Re: Maico disk brakes |
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So if you have survived for 6 months driving on them than they are not junk like others may seem to say ...
Your kit seems to look more like the 356 version of the annular brakes but with cutouts maybe someone before you did some modification to them?? I could be wrong but that's what they seem to look like ..... |
They're not junk by any means. They're complicated in their design by modern standards. For Instance the slider setup to allow the caliper to stay central is average at best leading to uneven pad wear. Asides from that and their difficulty to bleed, they're fine in use.
While being cut up Porsche brakes would be a cool aspect, I can confirm they have maico numbers cast into them. |
Only really downside that I've heard about these kits is finding the parts / pads and cost from what I researched ...seems audi in 1988 went to these style of brake kits audi ufo brakes ....
Keep us updated on them please..only real info are folks who have these kits on the road with real experience good or bad we want to hear it ... |
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Glenn
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| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 5:06 pm Post subject: Re: Maico disk brakes |
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| Glenn wrote: |
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| Glenn wrote: |
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| I wish someone would make repops of these disc brakes ..come on guys.. |
Manufacturing brakes is a huge liability investment. |
I bet if empi made kits everything would be good ...
Let's all email empi and demand these annular brakes to be back on the market... |
You be the first to load your family in the VW and take it for a drive on the interstate. Let me know how that works out for you. |
You swear that they are worst than drums brakes..and I know a quite a few folks that drive with drums brakes so what's the difference... |
You missed my point, if they were made today and by EMPI, they would be low quality... like most of the crappy aftermarket parts available. Now if Brembo or Wilwood made them, it would be a different story.
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Fishynos72
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| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 5:10 pm Post subject: Re: Maico disk brakes |
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So if you have survived for 6 months driving on them than they are not junk like others may seem to say ...
Your kit seems to look more like the 356 version of the annular brakes but with cutouts maybe someone before you did some modification to them?? I could be wrong but that's what they seem to look like ..... |
They're not junk by any means. They're complicated in their design by modern standards. For Instance the slider setup to allow the caliper to stay central is average at best leading to uneven pad wear. Asides from that and their difficulty to bleed, they're fine in use.
While being cut up Porsche brakes would be a cool aspect, I can confirm they have maico numbers cast into them. |
Only really downside that I've heard about these kits is finding the parts / pads and cost from what I researched ...seems audi in 1988 went to these style of brake kits audi ufo brakes ....
Keep us updated on them please..only real info are folks who have these kits on the road with real experience good or bad we want to hear it ... |
Yeah no stress.
I had discs that were so heavily corroded that were junk, but they made a good stencil for me to have replacement laser cut.
Pads I had new material bonded onto my original backings.
Ideally a source of new pads or backing plates would be nice.
There are some NOS pads around if you go looking.
More -pusch has a whole NOS setup of maico for sale
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| Empi now days seems not to be the old empi from the past the owners now days seem to be about there good quality ..and no I'm not a spokes person for them...it was just a simple suggestion on having a person make repops and if any company could make repops why not ... |
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Glenn
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| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 5:17 pm Post subject: Re: Maico disk brakes |
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| Empi now days seems not to be the old empi from the past the owners now days seem to be about there good quality ..and no I'm not a spokes person for them...it was just a simple suggestion on having a person make repops and if any company could make repops why not ... |
I'm yet to be convinced that EMPI is all about quality.
When I converted to front disc, I used Ghia spindles, Ate calipers, Brembo rotors and FAG bearings. Not taking any chances.
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| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 7:50 pm Post subject: Re: Maico disk brakes |
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are we taking about the same Empi? Cause the safe bet is that they would F it up.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 6:56 pm Post subject: Re: Maico disk brakes |
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| Fishynos72 wrote: |
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So if you have survived for 6 months driving on them than they are not junk like others may seem to say ...
Your kit seems to look more like the 356 version of the annular brakes but with cutouts maybe someone before you did some modification to them?? I could be wrong but that's what they seem to look like ..... |
They're not junk by any means. They're complicated in their design by modern standards. For Instance the slider setup to allow the caliper to stay central is average at best leading to uneven pad wear. Asides from that and their difficulty to bleed, they're fine in use.
While being cut up Porsche brakes would be a cool aspect, I can confirm they have maico numbers cast into them. |
Only really downside that I've heard about these kits is finding the parts / pads and cost from what I researched ...seems audi in 1988 went to these style of brake kits audi ufo brakes ....
Keep us updated on them please..only real info are folks who have these kits on the road with real experience good or bad we want to hear it ... |
I have been running Maico brakes on my Oval for a few years and like them. They brake better than drums but the biggest improvement is the brake feel - much more progressive.
The only significant issue so far was a leak from one of the cylinders. A hone and new seals fixed it. The company who refurbished them didn't have any issues getting seals but I got the impression that is was an 'old guy' fix as they said there was only one person in the company who did work like that.
The biggest downside is the complete lack of any spare parts. If the piston gets damaged or worn you are SOL. If the rotors wear you are going to have to get some made etc. |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:58 pm Post subject: Re: Maico disk brakes |
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| dinsdale wrote: |
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| Fishynos72 wrote: |
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So if you have survived for 6 months driving on them than they are not junk like others may seem to say ...
Your kit seems to look more like the 356 version of the annular brakes but with cutouts maybe someone before you did some modification to them?? I could be wrong but that's what they seem to look like ..... |
They're not junk by any means. They're complicated in their design by modern standards. For Instance the slider setup to allow the caliper to stay central is average at best leading to uneven pad wear. Asides from that and their difficulty to bleed, they're fine in use.
While being cut up Porsche brakes would be a cool aspect, I can confirm they have maico numbers cast into them. |
Only really downside that I've heard about these kits is finding the parts / pads and cost from what I researched ...seems audi in 1988 went to these style of brake kits audi ufo brakes ....
Keep us updated on them please..only real info are folks who have these kits on the road with real experience good or bad we want to hear it ... |
I have been running Maico brakes on my Oval for a few years and like them. They brake better than drums but the biggest improvement is the brake feel - much more progressive.
The only significant issue so far was a leak from one of the cylinders. A hone and new seals fixed it. The company who refurbished them didn't have any issues getting seals but I got the impression that is was an 'old guy' fix as they said there was only one person in the company who did work like that.
The biggest downside is the complete lack of any spare parts. If the piston gets damaged or worn you are SOL. If the rotors wear you are going to have to get some made etc. |
Thank for your input...I would love to get my hand on a set one day soon I hope ....yeah like I said if we can find a company who is and was dedicated in making the exact kit replacement parts would be available..but that's easy saying than doing ... |
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My Maico disc brakes along with magnesium BRMs.
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