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3crispies Samba Member
Joined: March 08, 2019 Posts: 126 Location: Cambs UK
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2022 2:45 pm Post subject: Steering box contamination |
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About 5 years ago drained oil out and it was a yellowish colour, assumed water contamination so refilled with steering box oil cant remember which type. Box has a slight weep and felt a bit notchy so again drained oil and appears to be a murky colour and had what appears to be metal seperating from the oil when in a clear container.
Have ordered new seals but considering a 50/50 oil and grease mix as thing box needs a complete overhaul which I need to look into. Will this mix actually have any gains ?. |
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dodger tom Samba Member
Joined: March 25, 2013 Posts: 1268 Location: Central Coast, CA, but we're all still Ukrainian
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2022 3:16 pm Post subject: Re: Steering box contanination |
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steve at wolfgang int’l, who sold me a rebuilt steering box, recommends 1/2 oil and 1/2 grease, but i can’t remember the specifics. call him, or wait for feedback from more knowledgable members. _________________ 1978 Champaign Edition 2 Westfalia
Would never find the time to keep up another classic air-cooled. |
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2022 5:08 pm Post subject: Re: Steering box contanination |
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Gl4 gear oil and check it once a year. New seals will help the drip. Also keeping it properly adjusted will slow a drip too. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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Manfred58sc Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2009 Posts: 3382
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2022 5:51 pm Post subject: Re: Steering box contanination |
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100% full synthetic like Super Lube, the viscosity and resistance to emulsion with water is unparalleled. Any other modality is yesterdays technology _________________ Fat chick owner/operator |
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bsairhead Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2008 Posts: 3566 Location: viroqua wi.
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2022 5:53 pm Post subject: Re: Steering box contanination |
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John Deere corn head grease. |
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2022 9:33 pm Post subject: Re: Steering box contanination |
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the problem with corn head grease is that all the feral pigs come out at night to chew the tires when it leaks. If they get it on them ...
future bus owners chasing a future tire chewer
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_________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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dodger tom Samba Member
Joined: March 25, 2013 Posts: 1268 Location: Central Coast, CA, but we're all still Ukrainian
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crownline Samba Member
Joined: September 10, 2010 Posts: 592 Location: Northwoods of WI
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:54 am Post subject: Re: Steering box contamination |
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How do they get grease out of the head of corn. _________________ 1972 Bus 1700 cc Single Carb. But not a progressive.
Barelymuvin
Wish I still had the ones I got rid of.
"It"s got some dings and dents and neither of us is going to SEMA."(Update, I went to SEMA in 2019 but the Bus stayed home)
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bsairhead Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2008 Posts: 3566 Location: viroqua wi.
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:26 am Post subject: Re: Steering box contamination |
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crownline wrote: |
How do they get grease out of the head of corn. |
ACME Corn head press |
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:45 am Post subject: Re: Steering box contamination |
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bsairhead wrote: |
crownline wrote: |
How do they get grease out of the head of corn. |
ACME Corn head press |
Is that the same company where Wile E. Coyote buys his Road Runner traps?
_________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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bsairhead Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2008 Posts: 3566 Location: viroqua wi.
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:04 am Post subject: Re: Steering box contamination |
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SGKent wrote: |
bsairhead wrote: |
crownline wrote: |
How do they get grease out of the head of corn. |
ACME Corn head press |
Is that the same company where Wile E. Coyote buys his Road Runner traps?
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Anvils and rocket sleds. |
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raygreenwood Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2008 Posts: 21513 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:24 am Post subject: Re: Steering box contamination |
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Years back....late 90s..... I started installing 50/50 oil and grease. While it does the trick because it has the film strength and EP capability of grease and the flow-ability of a high ISO gear oil so it does not readily leak out.......its VERY difficult to get a correct formulation that will not have an oxidization/incompatibility issue between the grease base and gear oil base.
What I found worked....is compatible....is exactly what manfred58sc stated. The superglue synthetic grease....mixed with superlube synthetic gear oil is perfectly compatible.
But....kind of a pain to mix and install. It is moderately thixotropic....shear thinnable....so if you can whip it up it's easier to pump in.
Looking for thixotropic greases.....or actually gear GREASES.....which is what the steering boxes on the 411 anx 412 came with....which are really a very heavy oil....or a light grease....take your pick......I later found out about Cornhead grease which is a 0 or 00 grade of shear thinning grease that works ideally in steering boxes and power take off systems. Ray |
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3crispies Samba Member
Joined: March 08, 2019 Posts: 126 Location: Cambs UK
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2023 1:24 pm Post subject: Re: Steering box contamination |
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Thanks for all replies due to cold snap here before christmas couldnt get the box lube wam enough to flow, weather here in the Uk is mild compared to elsewhere so have replaced seals cleaned and refitted.
Just need to look into adjusting properly..... |
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2023 5:46 pm Post subject: Re: Steering box contamination |
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what year bus is it? _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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