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Rome
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Joined: June 02, 2004
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Location: Pearl River, NY
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 Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:44 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Golde metal sunroof Ghia project |
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Colors look great! Reminds me of tomato soup and crackers. 
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2022 5:34 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Golde metal sunroof Ghia project |
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Pretty much finished with the interior. Just waiting on the front seats to get sand blasted, I will then prime and paint them before they get upholstered.
I removed the top to take to the shop to bodywork and paint it. I cleaned up and polished the tracks, installed the felt seals and unstuck the stuck black knob on the Golde handle without breaking anything.
Starting the wiring next and the will finish up installing the engine seals in preparation for shoehorning the 356 engine in its new home.
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1956 Ghia
1959 SO-23 Westfalia
1960 double cab
1960 Baja Bug
1963 stretched double cab
1962 Golde sunroof Ghia
1963 356 B coupe
1963 Notchback
1967 21 window less rusty now |
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 7:19 am Post subject: Re: 1962 Golde metal sunroof Ghia project |
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Sunroof is installed and works great. Still need to fabricate the headliner panel.
I also bolted up the Porsche engine. Went in easy, easier than a stock engine. Go figure.
Next step is to fabricate up the side and rear tins then hook everything up and see if it starts.
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Go Reds! Smash state!
Retirement is here!
1956 Ghia
1959 SO-23 Westfalia
1960 double cab
1960 Baja Bug
1963 stretched double cab
1962 Golde sunroof Ghia
1963 356 B coupe
1963 Notchback
1967 21 window less rusty now |
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Deluxe Lowlight Ghia
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Location: Arizona
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| Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 8:10 am Post subject: Re: 1962 Golde metal sunroof Ghia project |
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This is giving me motivation to get back to my 61. Yours is looking great. Sunroof puts this over the top for me
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kingkarmann
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Joined: November 05, 2003
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| Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 8:57 am Post subject: Re: 1962 Golde metal sunroof Ghia project |
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So close!
Things are getting really exciting!! 
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Jacks
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Location: San Clemente, Ca.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:15 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Golde metal sunroof Ghia project |
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912 side tins trimmed are easy and good, slight modification of VW 36hp style is good for rear tin, same for front tin
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Rome
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Joined: June 02, 2004
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Location: Pearl River, NY
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| Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Golde metal sunroof Ghia project |
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No interference of the engine lid springs with the tops of the air cleaners as you bring the lid down? Looks like it would be very close...
Excellent work on the sunroof mechanism! |
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VeloMikey
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Joined: March 19, 2012
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Location: So Cal
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| Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:24 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Golde metal sunroof Ghia project |
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What did you do to the deck lid latch? Paint it silver or plate it? All the little details stick out!
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Braukuche
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Joined: September 03, 2004
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| Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Golde metal sunroof Ghia project |
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| Jacks wrote: |
| 912 side tins trimmed are easy and good, slight modification of VW 36hp style is good for rear tin, same for front tin |
Thanks for the pointers. Looks like my 356 front tin will work, I’ll try the 36hp one for the rear before I chop up my Porsche one.
For wide tins I’m going to cut up some VW cylinder head tins using the flat pieces with holes drilled in them to mount them to the Porsche heads.
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Go Reds! Smash state!
Retirement is here!
1956 Ghia
1959 SO-23 Westfalia
1960 double cab
1960 Baja Bug
1963 stretched double cab
1962 Golde sunroof Ghia
1963 356 B coupe
1963 Notchback
1967 21 window less rusty now |
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:32 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Golde metal sunroof Ghia project |
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| Rome wrote: |
No interference of the engine lid springs with the tops of the air cleaners as you bring the lid down? Looks like it would be very close...
Excellent work on the sunroof mechanism! |
The right spring just kisses the top barely. The carbs are just sitting there until I get the tins In place. I’m hoping once I have everything tightened down I’ll have proper clearance.
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Go Reds! Smash state!
Retirement is here!
1956 Ghia
1959 SO-23 Westfalia
1960 double cab
1960 Baja Bug
1963 stretched double cab
1962 Golde sunroof Ghia
1963 356 B coupe
1963 Notchback
1967 21 window less rusty now |
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:33 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Golde metal sunroof Ghia project |
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| VeloMikey wrote: |
| What did you do to the deck lid latch? Paint it silver or plate it? All the little details stick out! |
I cleaned it up and painted it.
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Go Reds! Smash state!
Retirement is here!
1956 Ghia
1959 SO-23 Westfalia
1960 double cab
1960 Baja Bug
1963 stretched double cab
1962 Golde sunroof Ghia
1963 356 B coupe
1963 Notchback
1967 21 window less rusty now |
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Peter D.
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Location: Stamford, CT
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| Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:38 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Golde metal sunroof Ghia project |
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Apparently there is a way to order the TMI OEM style door panels in other colors. I was on the evwparts website and found and found this option. https://www.evwparts.com/volkswagen/TMIGhiaSedanOEMFullSetDoorPanels.html
The Part # is 19-1524-Custom
Of course, you're limited to TMI vinyls but you can get it them in the OEM style in the color of your choice.
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Beautiful work! That's a great looking door panel. Where did you source the door panel from? This is going to be such an attention grabber every where you take it.
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Hi Mark, door panels are from TMI. |
You're lucky your interior is brick red and you can use the TMI door panel. Brick red is the only color of the 5 or 6 colors they offer that actually came on Ghias (I don't understand why they make them in non-factory colors. I tried contacting TMI and of course got no response).
I actually considered doing a brick red interior solely for the ease of getting that door panel. I'm STILL waiting on my off-white door panels from SMS that I ordered last summer. |
So their gray and blue ones are not close to original? It’s hard to tell in pictures. I have a 63 Emerald Green car to do and will need panels but I don’t ones that are not correct.
I waited several months for my material from SMS. I finally called them and left a message and amazingly the next day got a shipping notice. |
The original silver beige interiors I've seen photos of, the "grey" portion of the door cards has a more earthy/brown tint to it, as opposed to the stark "grey-scale" grey of the TMI panels.
I've never seen that TMI water blue color in a 61-66 Ghia. Was that an original color?
I believe these are OG silver beige panels
https://www.shannons.com.au/auctions/2021-shannons-spring-timed-online-auction/NFMBDEKF597GY3C0/
TMI grey
https://classiccars.com/listings/view/922636/1965-...ouri-63074
The difference is subtle, and a non-Ghia person would likely never know, but it's there. |
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2022 5:57 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Golde metal sunroof Ghia project |
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Finally made some progress on the Ghia. Was on vacation since early May, got back early July and have been chipping away slowly since.
The biggest problem has been the sunroof. While I was lucky to get most of the mechanical, bits that attach to the body, the cables were AWOL. The car did come with a set of Beetle cables and an entire Beetle roof which I was able to pirate peices from to make the Beetle cables work on my Ghia roof. But there were other problems, it was missing the headliner panel.
I located one on the Samba that was supposed to be for a Beetle, but it wasn’t. I think it may have been for a Porsche 356 or possible a 912? But in any case I got really lucky and it fit the hole in my roof with minor adaptation.
The tricky part though is it was a clip on style, meaning it attached to the sunroof with plastic snaps whereas the original fastened with slots that went into brackets on the sunroof. So I had to make adaptations there as well
After several attempts to make it work, and three destroyed headliners later, it works. Amazingly enough.
I also finished up on the body trim, the quarter window scrapers, and the dreaded “C” trim in the windshield and rear window. The C trim was much easier to install thanks to Samba user Craigbro’s clever tip of using two different wires and the fact that I removed the original trim myself from the old windows carefully so they were not distorted.
Next step is to get the front seats upholstered, clean up the gas tank and install and see if the engine I built
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Go Reds! Smash state!
Retirement is here!
1956 Ghia
1959 SO-23 Westfalia
1960 double cab
1960 Baja Bug
1963 stretched double cab
1962 Golde sunroof Ghia
1963 356 B coupe
1963 Notchback
1967 21 window less rusty now |
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Era Vulgaris
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 2:32 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Golde metal sunroof Ghia project |
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| Peter D. wrote: |
Apparently there is a way to order the TMI OEM style door panels in other colors. I was on the evwparts website and found and found this option. https://www.evwparts.com/volkswagen/TMIGhiaSedanOEMFullSetDoorPanels.html
The Part # is 19-1524-Custom
Of course, you're limited to TMI vinyls but you can get it them in the OEM style in the color of your choice.
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Duuuuude! I asked a couple vendors (jbugs and someone else I can't recall offhand) if this was possible to do and they both said no, so I quit looking into it. I didn't know about evwparts. I wish I'd have known about this last summer before I ordered from SMS. I'd have had my door panels last year probably 
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Currently own:
66 Karmann Ghia, L390 Gulf Blue, under construction, here: www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=760505&highlight=
99 Mazda MX-5 10AE, Sapphire Blue Mica, 6 speed, LSD
Previously owned:
98 Porsche Boxster, silver, 2.5L -- 67 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1500sp -- 98 BMW Z3, Atlanta Blue Metallic, 2.8L I6 -- 75 Porsche 914, Laguna Blue, 2270cc -- 72 Porsche 914, Signal Orange, 1.7 FI -- 74 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1600dp -- 74 Triumph TR6 with O.D., sapphire blue |
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TRS63
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 7:53 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Golde metal sunroof Ghia project |
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Been forever since I updated this build thread, but I’ve been buried in projects and waiting on parts so…
But most of all I had to,figure out how to fit a 356 muffler in a Ghia body. To make a long story short I had to cut all four inlet pipes for the muffler, bolt up the flanges to the 2-4 heads, cut a part of the override support bracket out, stuff the muffler up and in until it mated with the flange section, tack weld to make sure it fit, then bench weld it. For 1-3 I used splices and clamps, not elegant but it works.
I then broke in the cam and it runs. Now if I had a couple of seats I could drive it.
Meanwhile, my set of Luis Rock Grey floor mats arrived. They look sharp.
The seats are almost done, so maybe before the New Yesr I’ll be able to road test it.
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Go Reds! Smash state!
Retirement is here!
1956 Ghia
1959 SO-23 Westfalia
1960 double cab
1960 Baja Bug
1963 stretched double cab
1962 Golde sunroof Ghia
1963 356 B coupe
1963 Notchback
1967 21 window less rusty now |
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obus 
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tri356
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| Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 10:03 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Golde metal sunroof Ghia project |
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Way to persevere with the muffler Dan.
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TRS63
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kingkarmann
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| Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:23 am Post subject: Re: 1962 Golde metal sunroof Ghia project |
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I'm sure that first drive will be epic
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