Vanagon theft in Oakland

[jimf909]

[csebern]

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Crime clearance rate of MVT is about 12%, nationwide. It’s popular to blame this one the other guys agenda but it’s never been a high point of LEO success.
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[dougnlina]

Differences in Law enforcement:
In the late 80s I lived in Philadelphia and drove a Beetle. One day I get a call from the cops, they have the tool box I kept in my trunk (Hey, It was a VW Beetle) Apparently a thief had broken into the car through the wing vent window, gone through the car and grabbed the tools and a few other things. Phila PD had seen the guy walking down the street with the tookbox and stopped to ask a few questions. Figured out he had stolen the tools, they had the guy show him the car it came out of, then they figured out the registered owner, looked me up in the phonebook, and called me. THAT type of policing would NEVER happen today, definitely not in SF, Oakland, or Portland. And probably not in Philly either. Too much work, not exciting, not worth the effort. I'd like to think it still works that way in small-town-USA. But probably not there either.
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[charleslabri]

as a part time sf/oakland resident for a number of years... and currently a west oakland resident.

I was driving through the neighborhood the other day and saw 2 tintops sitting on the street and thought to myself.. in what mind would anyone even park a tintop on the street here?

When parking any car in sf or oakland, i clear everything off the seats/back. Nothing can be visible, not even a napkin or plastic bag of trash; ive had break ins to steal trash, pens, etc in the cars ive owned.

if you are driving a nice westy through the bay area you park indoors somehow (its damn near impossible) or you just go somewhere else
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[mtnhome]

Apparently it's no harder to steal a U-Haul truck than a Vanagon. You'd think car makers would have improved things by now. All the more reason to install tracking devices and kill switch systems.
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[Californio]

Wish me luck guys...I have to go to dinner tonight near San Pablo Ave in Oakland and park the van, probably in a laundromat parking lot that is well lighted. Kill switch will be activated and I'm going to try the seat-forward suggestion as well. Luckily the van will be visible from the window of where I'm going.

Terrible things got to be this bad.

One thing that has happened post-Prop 47 is that as felonies became misdemeanors, people stopped reporting them to law enforcement because, why? That means the actual rate of property crime may be much higher than the stats show. If there are 1,000 property crimes reported weekly in Oakland, but only one in four are actually reported, there are 4,000 crimes committed.

Anyway.

[vanis13]

[vanis13]

would still like to hear from local...the first googol search is from the CA courts page

https://www.courts.ca.gov/prop47.htm

"Proposition 47: The Safe Neighborhoods and Schools Act"

I think I'll just start voting the opposite of the message given :-/
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[Xevin]

[Steve M.]

[dougnlina]

[mtnhome]

Vanagon thieves just need a ride to the Train Station...
That's a lame Yellowstone reference.
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[82westyrabbit]

I have been thinking about this thread a lot. I certainly feel for the owner that lost all his possessions. I certainly would not have left my $700 bikes on a rack at night much less some very expensive custom bikes. But this is not really a Vanagon theft. This is a U-Haul truck theft. They dumped the van that could be easily identified kas quickly as they could. From a theft point of view, the U-Haul and the trailer and all that stuff have much more street value than the van. This is a different kikknd of thief than someone that wants a place to sleep for the night. I don’t know how this changes the conversation but this was probably professional thieves that can steal a modern car with anti theft stuff. I am glad he got the van back (I would be devastated if I lost mine). I pray he had insurance on the rest. If the owner of the van happens to read this I hope he understands our hearts go out to him and that we sincerely hope he comes out ok after the dust settles. John

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+1000, John
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[IdahoDoug]

Certainly a shame all around, but I must disagree with the challenges to having a discussion about it. The cancel culture phase of our civilization we find ourselves in has cost our country dearly. The core of this dangerous and divisive philosophy is that any discussion of a situation or an occurrence is de facto a bad thing.

I could not disagree more. Out of discussion, consideration of merits, pluses and minuses regarding the wisdom of certain decisions, and other factors of an occurrence comes the formation of a collective wisdom. As a civilization moves through decades and changes (from walking, to horses, to wagons, to cars, etc) we are faced with a constant stream of new things to process and an ever evolving layer of wisdom must be created.

So the place we find ourselves in now is that the world is moving on without the formation of wisdom due to this completely misguided cancel culture, born out of a desire to promulgate small streams of "progress" that stops the huge river of wisdom we used to create as we encountered the future.

This hapless fellow is a stand up guy. I'm sure of it. But he made a whopper of a bad decision parking in a city any consumer of news would know is ground zero for theft and uncontrolled crime. Heck, I don't even live in his STATE and I'm fully aware of it - how is/was he not aware.

If only one person here on the Samba changes the way they approach travel in, through or near these crime infested cities and avoids the result this guy experienced - isn't that enough of a benefit in having this thread? Should not there be this good resulting from his bad situation? I'm glad for the thread, sad for the guy that's the source of it.
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[skills@eurocarsplus]

IF God forbid I had to live in some shithole area like most of you (seem) to I'd be dropping laced bags of everything-fentanyl, crack, ecstasy etc and just let the bodies stack up. Problem solved. When you have rats, rat poison is 100% effective. My compassion left the building about 15 years ago.

Everyone got what they voted for. It just blows my mind that people vote party, not what's right. I've been known to vote both ways because I vote on a person's policies, not party affiliation.

I couldn't imagine living in a place where dogs step in people shit rather than the other way around
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