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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 2:35 pm    Post subject: drop spindles.. Reply with quote

Thinking about getting drop spindles for my bug..
jbugs currently has a special on the 2.5 in drop spindles, $ 96/pair...

But am wondering, with the front suspension otherwise being stock, will there be interference with the fenders ?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 2:43 pm    Post subject: Re: drop spindles.. Reply with quote

What size tires?

Stock tires... yes.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 2:44 pm    Post subject: Re: drop spindles.. Reply with quote

MTT3107 wrote:
Thinking about getting drop spindles for my bug..
jbugs currently has a special on the 2.5 in drop spindles, $ 96/pair...

But am wondering, with the front suspension otherwise being stock, will there be interference with the fenders ?


Arn't there rubber suspension bump stoppers on the shock absorbers , to stop you bottoming out . Check they are in good condition and leave you enough clearance.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 2:58 pm    Post subject: Re: drop spindles.. Reply with quote

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Arn't there rubber suspension bump stoppers on the shock absorbers , to stop you bottoming out . Check they are in good condition and leave you enough clearance.

No, not on ball joint front suspension cars.

The OP didn't state what year/model car he wants to install the, drop spindles on.
Drop spindles utilize the stock length shocks.
Unlike when installing a selecta drop setup in the front beam.

Glenn,
I run stock size tires with drop spindles in my 67. They don't rub on anything. Even after installing a disc brake conversion kit recently. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 4:33 pm    Post subject: Re: drop spindles.. Reply with quote

Ok, thanks for the info.
My bug is a stock '73 std, with disc brake conversion
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:00 am    Post subject: Re: drop spindles.. Reply with quote

Nitramrebrab72 wrote:
...Aren't there rubber suspension bump stoppers on the shock absorbers , to stop you bottoming out ...


Aftermarket shocks may not have them, but stock front ball joint shocks do.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:39 am    Post subject: Re: drop spindles.. Reply with quote

67rustavenger wrote:
No, not on ball joint front suspension cars.

Wow, I've never noticed that BJ front ends don't have the usual snubber bushing on the shock tower, and I've owned several BJ cars over the years Embarassed
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 7:11 am    Post subject: Re: drop spindles.. Reply with quote

In my experience, you will lose a significant amount of turning radius with the drop spindles.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:29 am    Post subject: Re: drop spindles.. Reply with quote

Here is me with dropped spindles

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2022 12:32 am    Post subject: Re: drop spindles.. Reply with quote

I had 2.5 drop spindles on my 72 Standard. It had 145s on it when I bought it. The PO Told me it was rubbing with stock tires.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:29 pm    Post subject: Re: drop spindles.. Reply with quote

I installed 2.5" dropped disc brake spindles on my '75 STD Beetle with stock steel wheels. With anyone over 100lbs in the driver seat the 165SR-15 tires were rubbing the fenders at the outer corner of the tires. With my 200lb butt in the driver's seat the tires would rub on every bump in the road and any corners. Even braking hard in a straight line meant rubbing.

I switched to 145/80-15s and they were okay in a straight line but hard turns and big bumps meant they would rub. Add a 200lb buddy in the passenger seat and the rubbing was back most of the time.


If you are considering dropped disc spindles you should also consider a 2" narrowed front beam to compensate for the amount the spindles will push the wheels outward. This narrowed beam requires shorter front torsion springs and a shorter front sway bar.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:38 am    Post subject: Re: drop spindles.. Reply with quote

I agree!! That’s my current plan….two inch narrowed! Will definitely solve the rubbing..
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:20 am    Post subject: Re: drop spindles.. Reply with quote

I’ll add three more comments,
1) The ‘67 and earlier front fenders had a bit more room under the fenders. This means the tires don’t rub (or don’t rub as much) like the ‘68-later fenders even though the beams are the same.

2) Another option to reduce rubbing is to run wheels with larger offets (more backspacing) to push the tires further in. Some aftermarket steel wheels have 40mm+ offsets.

3) Be careful when running aftermarket alloy wheels. The dropped spindles place the lower ball joint knuckle very close to touching the inside of the stock steel wheels. If you run alloy wheels which are thicker wheel metal the torsion arm may need to be ground down to clear the wheel. Or spacers added to push the wheels further out so the ball joint sits outside the wheel… further pushing the wheel into the fender.
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