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djfordmanjack Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2022 4:22 am Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |
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It basically supports the bus or beetle at the rear torque spring housing tube and the front chassis area around the frame head/lower front axle tube.
The screw/lever lift has a somewhat different design but basically the support looks to be the same as on this single center post hydraulic lift ( which is also pictured in said VW binder). These can still be found today in many an older former VW workshop or smaller garages.
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I am curious about this lift and how it supported the vw. Could you provide a better picture from that manual? |
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obieoberstar Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 1126 Location: Tucson
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:27 pm Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |
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Thank you for the photos. I can now see the details of the arms and how they are connected. Makes more sense. |
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finster Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2012 Posts: 7840 Location: north o' the border
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 12:27 pm Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |
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the boss Samba Member
Joined: May 25, 2005 Posts: 50 Location: brussels
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:39 am Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |
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Above the last pic ,we can definitively seen that the front bean is fitted with is both welded rods before fitting on the assembly line .Here we got an answer |
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RockStock Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2004 Posts: 3921 Location: England
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:08 am Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |
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From p7:
Next sequence:
Gearbox install, Barndoor Standard
Stoplight and tyre tray not yet fitted
Emergency brake cable hanging down, with restraining tab vertical
Chalk mark on the spring plate _________________ -StockRocks- |
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quattro44 Samba Member
Joined: December 29, 2018 Posts: 1 Location: Nuremberg
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 4:56 am Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |
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Did they mount different types of tires on the front and rear? |
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TornadoRed06 Samba Member
Joined: August 30, 2020 Posts: 191 Location: Porto - Portugal
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 4:21 pm Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |
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quattro44 wrote: |
Did they mount different types of tires on the front and rear? |
Yes they did. This photograph has been determined to be from the assembly line VW had open in Brazil (SKD/CKD).
Even though by the 1950s both in Germany (Europe) as well as in Brazil, road pavement and road infrastructure was poor by todays standards, Brazil was and still is a lot challenging on that particular. Even today, there's plenty of unpaved roads there! |
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RockStock Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2004 Posts: 3921 Location: England
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:04 am Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |
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Could be a later bus _________________ -StockRocks- |
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Lowdown Dirty Rat Samba Member
Joined: June 25, 2005 Posts: 877 Location: Cornwall, UK
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2022 3:59 pm Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |
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You posted this on the last page
Rear window looks early. _________________ 1951 Samba 20-017894
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finster Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2012 Posts: 7840 Location: north o' the border
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:24 am Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |
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love the artisan with a ciggy on the go...
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the boss Samba Member
Joined: May 25, 2005 Posts: 50 Location: brussels
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Posted: Sun May 14, 2023 4:07 am Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |
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Just saw this picture with barndoorc15 window in factory
Courtesy Mr Drent
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Lind Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2000 Posts: 9905 Location: idaho
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Posted: Sun May 14, 2023 5:32 am Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |
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the boss wrote: |
Just saw this picture with barndoor 15 window in factory
Courtesy Mr Drent
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Very cool pic, but those are not barndoors. _________________ .
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busben Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2008 Posts: 526 Location: Somerset, UK
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Posted: Sun May 14, 2023 2:45 pm Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |
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Aw, damn. A factory floor, Barndoor 15 window photo continues to elude us ….. |
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Lind Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 14, 2023 6:43 pm Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |
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busben wrote: |
Aw, damn. A factory floor, Barndoor 15 window photo continues to elude us ….. |
I have personally inspected a barndoor that I am confident is a factory 15 window. No belly pans ever, clips for the wiring, and a birth certificate showing it to be a 15. But still no pics of one in the factory. _________________ .
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RockStock Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2004 Posts: 3921 Location: England
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 2:25 pm Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |
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1953
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djfordmanjack Samba Member
Joined: June 15, 2009 Posts: 2103 Location: Graz, Austria, Europe
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:27 pm Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |
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interesting point of view, rarely showing the extreme angle the front quarter vent wings are in a VW (seen in the roof overhang on the sides). It's no wonder doors are ill fitting with that much of a crown in them. I was just thinking about this yesterday, comparing some Fk 1250 Transit van door glass (all straight) with the early VW doors.
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LAGrunthaner Samba Member
Joined: March 18, 2007 Posts: 5501 Location: 1st Coast
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:54 am Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |
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RockStock, are there any detail's to indicate that this Barndoor a 53? Teach me please, I love the details.
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Have you considered simply starting with a nicer bus? I don't know what your skills are, but the race is easier if you can see the finish line. If you are not a runner, don't start off doing a marathon. |
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RockStock Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2004 Posts: 3921 Location: England
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:43 am Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |
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No, I don’t think there is
Can’t even tell if it is a Panel, Kombi, or a Standard
Maybe it’s a Standard due to the 4 holes in the bulkhead for a long grab handle?
Mirror arm holes tells us it’s lhd
Prototyp's caption said 53
And 1953 was the year photographer Peter Keetman spent time capturing some cool images of the Wolfsburg factory
So most Bus factory pictures that have surfaced are his work, I think
Prototype must have access to a fair few other unseen Barndoor pics
Who has a contact there?
The vent window areas, with the top swivel rivet point & maybe that lower forward corner braced area, is the main clue this a post 53 bus & not a piano-hinged bus. But it could be a 54 or a 55, if we didn’t know it was 53.
Keetman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Keetman#
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It even enhances the terrific roof peak and wild shape the transporter was originally designed with in 49. The bead down the center windshield pillar is just a work of art. pure class design. |
Yes Günther, I agree with you
I really like those grind marks leading off the left from the roof crease
And that strong crease carries on way someway down the nose
Cool new photo _________________ -StockRocks- |
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djfordmanjack Samba Member
Joined: June 15, 2009 Posts: 2103 Location: Graz, Austria, Europe
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:46 pm Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |
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It has to be a standard. you can see the row of small dressed spot welds on the front roof. They hold the little hooks for the cloth headliner bows. _________________ Hotrods, Fords, Veedubs and Triumph Twins !
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RockStock Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2004 Posts: 3921 Location: England
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:56 pm Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |
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Hah, yes! Good spot! _________________ -StockRocks- |
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