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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 6:27 pm    Post subject: Best wheel size/width for off road tires? Reply with quote

Hi there!

I put 15x8 rims on my baja and found me some decent mud tires, but the tires are likely too tall (29-30) inches. I've been given lots of advice here about ATV or UTV tires instead; however, I just can't find anything that will utlimately work.

Going back to car/truck tires. Is there a wheel diameter/width/offset combo that works good for finding a wide range of All Terrain or Mud tires? I don't seem to have the right one.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Best wheel size/width for off road tires? Reply with quote

What’s your criteria for the right set up?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:57 am    Post subject: Re: Best wheel size/width for off road tires? Reply with quote

These are the tires ordered in to one of our local tire shops for a side by side owner. I was told they are street legal but I am not sure what other sizes they come in.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:41 am    Post subject: Re: Best wheel size/width for off road tires? Reply with quote

My criteria is 26" diameter for a 15inch rim. I have 15x8 rims.

The mud tires shown are for a 14 inch rim and 28". Wow... that's a big tire for a 14 inch rim...

I plan on heading to the local tire shop too as they will have a better idea. I need front tires also... UGH.... never ends.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Best wheel size/width for off road tires? Reply with quote

So you want to put a stock diameter tire on a Baja bug?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 6:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Best wheel size/width for off road tires? Reply with quote

Once you drop below 235/75r15, your choice for anything other than street tread or trailer tire becomes extremely limited.

I personally would go back to building/rebuilding the other Engine for your car and move forward from there.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 3:40 am    Post subject: Re: Best wheel size/width for off road tires? Reply with quote

I had 15" standard good year wranglers on the back of my baja. They wore well and felt like a good size. I believe they worked out to around 29" tall. Not expensive. I had regular cheapo tires on the front that were shorter. Front tires aren't that big a deal IMO unless you're going for looks. Bajas look good with lots of rubber though.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 5:07 am    Post subject: Re: Best wheel size/width for off road tires? Reply with quote

DesertSasquatchXploration wrote:
So you want to put a stock diameter tire on a Baja bug?

Yes if you have stock gearing and close to stock engine then the only way to have a usable 4th gear is stockish tire height.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:24 am    Post subject: Re: Best wheel size/width for off road tires? Reply with quote

On my class 11 look, I had General Grabber All Terrain in 215/75/15, they are listed as 27.7" tall. They are also available as 205/75/15, 27.1" tall, but your rim is probably too wide for those.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:50 am    Post subject: Re: Best wheel size/width for off road tires? Reply with quote

Should have mentioned, my rims were 5 1/2" wide Mangels.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:25 am    Post subject: Re: Best wheel size/width for off road tires? Reply with quote

Always thought wheel (rim) width should be somewhat close to tire tread width.... If its a 8 inch wide tread width rim should be 6-7 inches wide to keep proper tread profile...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Best wheel size/width for off road tires? Reply with quote

TireRack is a great resource for finding tire heigth, width, and rim size fitment range
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:10 am    Post subject: Re: Best wheel size/width for off road tires? Reply with quote

I have found most tires are undersized per spec. I have 30 x9.5 bfg’s on 15 x8 rims and my tires are 28.5 tall actual . These may be a little tall for a 1600. But i got around ok for years with a 1600 and 31” tires. Gearing is important but seems the best improvement I had was a stroker engine with some low rpm torque
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2023 4:43 am    Post subject: Re: Best wheel size/width for off road tires? Reply with quote

As a general rule for off road, tire size should be twice the rim diameter, and 1.5x rim width. I'm running 31x10.5 on 15x7 wheels.

Engine and gearing make a big difference. Displacement is what gives you torque, and a 002 trans with 5.38 r/p, 65mph is right at 3k rpm with my tires.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 1:43 am    Post subject: Re: Best wheel size/width for off road tires? Reply with quote

Back in the 1970s, Winston Tire made an L60-15 tire called a "Fun & Mud". Offroad tread on a low profile casing. Fit 8" rims fine. Not good on swingaxle cars due to it's square edge rather than rounded tread for swingaxle. No safe for use near rocks. But you wanting low profile tires suggests you're after a street buggy rather than one for rocks and sand and mud.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 5:31 am    Post subject: Re: Best wheel size/width for off road tires? Reply with quote

The bottom line is that you can’t have a small engine, tall tires and stock gearing. Pick two out of the three. The cheapest of course is the shorter rubber but it looks like you need to go down in wheel size to do that.

I did two out of the three. I have 14” x 10” x 26” tires and a Bus 002 transaxle with a 1641 SP engine. This is a purely off road Buggy but if it were used on the highway a cruise speed of 60 mph would be maximum for a reasonable rpm. Yes it will do 70 but it is screaming it’s lungs out. On the back roads 40 mph is quite comfortable comfortable in 4th gear.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 6:17 am    Post subject: Re: Best wheel size/width for off road tires? Reply with quote

205 70r15 bfg a/t = 26.9 x 8.5..just saying
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 9:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Best wheel size/width for off road tires? Reply with quote

With the 1385cc 40hp engine and long axle swingaxle trans in my Baja I used to roll on H78-15s on 8" wide rims. Then when the bias plys were no longer available, I switched to 215-75s on the same wheels. Anything bigger the tire becomes the travel limiter as it hits the inner fender panel. Later, after I converted it to IRS, I switched to Centerline 7" wide rims with 30x9.50 tires. The tire still rubs the inner fender lightly at full bump. Just rubs the paint a little. 3x3s or even just 0x1s would allow for larger tires.


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