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KollynnBlackpaw
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:50 am    Post subject: Help identifying my Westy? Reply with quote

Hi all! I figured I'd make a post about my Westy as in looking at possibly selling it, and wanted some info to make sure I have the right details before doing so.

I had made a reddit post, so this will be a direct copy of that. I don't have any good photos of the sweet girl on hand but I'll get some soon.

For starters, she is an extremely early 68 (Sept 13 of 1967) Westfalia. The M-Plate even has "Remarks: Westfalia" and "M 517: Factory Prepared for Campmobile Interior" on it.

Her interior consists of a folding bed marked SO-60 which I can barely find info on, the behind-driver seat, table, what appears to have been the icebox/ sink behind passenger side at one point (missing, small hole in floor where it should be), childrens cot up front, a closet, Jalousie windows, no headache cabinet, black/white striped curtains, walk-thru, and twin fold-out cots up top. She has a Dormobile top.


From what I can tell, this Dormobile top is original. This bus is a strong project, and has sat since the early 90s. I strongly believe this top and related parts to be original, as they're quite worn and seem professionally and not-at-all-recently installed, and she even has her red and white striped Dormobile top material, and special cot material.

She has date coded 67 wheels all the way around, factory Pearl White paint, came with a BN4 Eberspacher (missing sadly, as is the engine, transmission, and title...), and still has her underbelly pans with perfect floors other than the front which need replaced.

From what I can find, Westfalia DID offer Dormobile tops for 68-70(?) after Dormobile was unable to import their own. I remember specifically reading that they couldn't import theirs as their cuts for the roof were too far forwards, something about structural integrity.

Does anyone know how I can tell that this is a factory Dormobile topped Westfalia? Did they really offer Dormobile tops? I'm looking to maybe trade it so I want to be sure I have all the info for any sales inquiries. I'm in the PNW if that matters. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:16 am    Post subject: Re: Help identifying my Westy? Reply with quote

IDK if they were Dormobile tops, but Westfalia offered 3 tops:
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Sourced from http://www.mybulli.de/info/69cwp.htm

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:46 am    Post subject: Re: Help identifying my Westy? Reply with quote

Hello,

the Dormobile roof listed as Z-2063 "folding roof with 2 beds" by Westfalia -
and needs the underfloor panels M-191 VW option to strengthen the statics.
Also listed in June 1971 - but not in Jan 1973 by Westfalia.

The benefit of the Westfalia roof instead of the Dormobile and some other roof types, that it does not disturb the statics in the standard roof an B- and C-pillars - or later the statics were added by Westfalia so that the body does not twist.

There is no Westfalia archive to ask for - or some thing more than the M-Plate - that solve the question if this is original.

you will find a lot of brochures at my website:
https://www.vw-t2-bulli.de/de-books-brochures-westfalia.html
https://www.vw-t2-bulli.de/de-books-brochures-vw-camper.html


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Help identifying my Westy? Reply with quote

Thank you both very very much. That helps clear up a lot for me. I'll try to post some photos today as well when I'm free. She does indeed have the M191 and still retains the pans.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:53 am    Post subject: Re: Help identifying my Westy? Reply with quote

Here is a video of the bus when I originally got it home and cleaned it up (she was filthy filthy filthy when I bought her.)
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:13 am    Post subject: Re: Help identifying my Westy? Reply with quote

Looks like the sink and ice box are missing at the entrance...
and lot of other small parts - a lot of work, good luck

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https://www.vw-t2-bulli.de/de-westfalia-so-60-campingwagen.html
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 2:57 am    Post subject: Re: Help identifying my Westy? Reply with quote

I would go over to vw-mplate.com and get your M-Plate decoded.
This will give you what it was originally specced with and where it came into the country.

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