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Huetti_1989
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Mr Margaret Scratcher
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 Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:20 am Post subject: Re: 67 Sparsamba repair from Austria |
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Finally fitted the repair patch of the outer corner, tacked them spot after spot while hammer and dolly the welds, need a lot more welding and hammering…
I had to learn that hammer dolly thing better….
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As someone who is trying to figure out the balance between blending new metal into old but without making the old metal too thin, can you explain a bit more what you mean? |
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Huetti_1989
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Mr Margaret Scratcher
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| Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:38 pm Post subject: Re: 67 Sparsamba repair from Austria |
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I am not good in explaining, i try to keep the repair pieces as small as possible, when i do a weldingpoint that point sink a little bit backwards, when hammer that point flater it started to stretch the metal a lille bit back, thats the theory…
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Ah yes, I think I did see someone talking about that - doesn't work with MIG though, which is the level I'm at, so I'll just have to marvel at your seamless welds for now, hah! |
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mandraks
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| Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 7:09 pm Post subject: Re: 67 Sparsamba repair from Austria |
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| Huetti_1989 wrote: |
I am not good in explaining, i try to keep the repair pieces as small as possible, when i do a weldingpoint that point sink a little bit backwards, when hammer that point flater it started to stretch the metal a lille bit back, thats the theory…
-Christian |
Ah yes, I think I did see someone talking about that - doesn't work with MIG though, which is the level I'm at, so I'll just have to marvel at your seamless welds for now, hah! |
as it was explained to me, and i do not weld at all, this applies to all welding. whenever you weld a spot the hot metal will contract afterwards, drawing the gap in front of it close, too close eventually. This is why you have to stretch the welded area to open the gap back up. and then you just keep going.
I understand that this is easer to control with a tig, but people have been using the mig for this when the welding area can't be cleaned up enough for a good tig weld.
yes, i know, i do not weld, but i do follow a few fellas who really know what they are doing.
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Huetti_1989
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| Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:21 pm Post subject: Re: 67 Sparsamba repair from Austria |
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| TRS63 wrote: |
Christian, it is as usual a pleasure to follow your progress ! Thanks for sharing !
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Thank you! The progress of Beer drinking is very useful!
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| Huetti_1989 wrote: |
I am not good in explaining, i try to keep the repair pieces as small as possible, when i do a weldingpoint that point sink a little bit backwards, when hammer that point flater it started to stretch the metal a lille bit back, thats the theory…
-Christian |
Ah yes, I think I did see someone talking about that - doesn't work with MIG though, which is the level I'm at, so I'll just have to marvel at your seamless welds for now, hah! |
as it was explained to me, and i do not weld at all, this applies to all welding. whenever you weld a spot the hot metal will contract afterwards, drawing the gap in front of it close, too close eventually. This is why you have to stretch the welded area to open the gap back up. and then you just keep going.
I understand that this is easer to control with a tig, but people have been using the mig for this when the welding area can't be cleaned up enough for a good tig weld.
yes, i know, i do not weld, but i do follow a few fellas who really know what they are doing. |
Yes with mig the welds are hard and not easy to hammering!
@mandraks, yes that hits it good, for me it gets difficult when all the welds are done and there are some lower and higher areas, i try to paint and file it to see the lower areas, and pushed the lower spots to outside, but when i weld new strong metal to thin old metal the thinner metal gets bent very bad.
so here some more Hammering, welding , "paint blending" and file pictures:
not the best result, but the holes are gone and it is finished, and i do a repair, not a restauration...
-Christian
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Huetti_1989
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swiss_bulli
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| Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 2:12 pm Post subject: Re: 67 Sparsamba repair from Austria |
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You mean this one? (borrowed from the gallery):
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BarryL 
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| Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:07 pm Post subject: Re: 67 Sparsamba repair from Austria |
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Here is my contribution.
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mdege
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swiss_bulli
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| Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:11 am Post subject: Re: 67 Sparsamba repair from Austria |
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You have two drain holes in the front of the battery tray which are inside of the dividing support.
I never got a clear answer, if it is welded or not. Normally there is a lot of seam sealer if the panel is intact and the other people do have it rusted completely  . Common sense of the answers is, it is just caulked and not welded.
The bend on the right side starts at around 5mm after the panel joint surface of corner panel to side wall. I would assume it is a 45 degree angle in both directions. On the other side the length of the piece attaching to the wheel arch was around 4.5cm on the top when I got the chance to meassure it at a festival from an intact one.
That is the result I bent to put in place:
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Tizian
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| Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:23 am Post subject: Re: 67 Sparsamba repair from Austria |
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I left it away, since it doesn't really make sense. The battery is held by the bracket and there is no Klötern (I love this northern German word) of the battery...
I know that this is not an option for you Hütti!
Cheers!
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Huetti_1989
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Mr Margaret Scratcher
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| Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 5:38 am Post subject: Re: 67 Sparsamba repair from Austria |
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Did you make this little bracket? Looks like you made it from a single piece, I'd be interested to know how you did it. I cheated and added in metal for the pressed part:
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Huetti_1989
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| Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 5:55 am Post subject: Re: 67 Sparsamba repair from Austria |
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I do not comment much on here, but I look forward to your updates. You are a master of your trade
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