Quarter window installation pop outs

[Mrfun2fly]

[fes]

Mine came from West Coast Metric and I'm pretty happy with them, although the pop outs still take a little effort to latch tight
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[jeffrey8164]

[jeffrey8164]

So, I think I found a solution for this problem.

Here is a new seal bent in a curve.

See the bunching? It’s exacerbated by the complex curve in the gasket channel.

I pushed some 5mm hose through it...

And I think I solved the severity of the problem.
Still there a little bit, but just a little.

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[judyanne]

I am changing the rubber on the window pillars on my 1960 ghia and have come across a little problem. The three window pillar screws don't seem to be holding anything. What are those screws supposed to be grabbing?

[kiwighia68]

[jeffrey8164]

https://www.westcoastmetric.com/i-22965639-143-319-l-r.html

These
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[judyanne]

Darn, my recent order from WCM just shipped yesterday! 😂

Sounds like I'm going to have to take the window out now...

[KGCoupe]

The 1960 VW Karmann Ghia Shop Manual - Body Section, which can be found in the Karmann Ghia Owner's Manual section under The Samba Technical tab, has a whole section on quarter window removal and installation beginning on page A-63 14.

[DaddyGo]

In Rich's photo from page 1 of the quarter window just prior to installation (attached here), it shows the three plastic hinges on the rubber seal. Are they simply glued to the seal, or are they glued to the window frame with the seal cut around them to fit?

[Vladiiiii]

Just to confirm, they are for before 9/1971, as far as I know
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[Disc]

Hinges are slides in the aluminum vertical trim
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[DaddyGo]

Thanks for the clarification Nick about the plastic hinges sliding into the aluminum. It appears my 69 had later windows shoved in but not attached. I found the aluminum piece on KGPR. Then that looks like the seal is cut to fit over the plastic hinges, is that correct?

[jeffrey8164]

Yes. There are screw holes in the pillar so line up the hinges to meet the screw holes and trim the gasket accordingly.
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[TwinkyZulu]

[jeffrey8164]

I did not leave the full channel full of 5 mm fuel hose I measured and poked it in with a dowel rod to where the curve would be covered. I think that was 10 inches or so.
I used some mineral oil and a 5 in 1 to work it in. I started at the top of the channel with the inside tucked in and then using the 5 in 1 to work the outside lip into the channel. Around the bend is the most difficult. Constant upward pressure needs to be applied while working it to the end or it will pop right the heck out. Expect that multiple times. 😳
I remember it so well. All the seals are a royal labor of love.
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[hiho]

This thread has been incredibly helpful.

I'd like to offer up my really good experience installing the West Coast Metric seals.

I used liquid vegetable glycerin and a paint can opener that I dulled the business end down a bit.

Lightly grease up aluminum channel with above.

Work the inside lip in first starting at the bottom, about 2 inches at a time.

Dip paint can opener end in glycerin and wok in the outside lip gently nudging the seal into the channel.

Repeat, inside seam then outside.

I worked my way around to the top and trimmed it there in situ.

The corner is buckled as per photos posted earlier but I will leave it as is and hope the glass and sunshine cleans it up.

Thanks again.

[Era Vulgaris]

I just installed the aluminum channels onto my car, and Rich's posts were quite helpful. I'd recommend an edit though. I noticed he not only trimmed the aluminum channel, but he also cut the channel to body seal. I was able to install my aluminum channel and channel to body seal without doing either of those things. I think keeping that seal intact as one piece around the perimeter of the quarter window will help keep water out. If you cut that seal, it's just another place where water could potentially enter the car.
I installed the upper half first, then the lower.

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[Teeroy]

I just did this on a 70 coupe. I used seals from Airhead, they have a molded corner, no bunching. Also left the rubber under the retainer on piece, and installed the rubber under the front retainer for door glass uper seal.

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[Teeroy]

There originally is also a small trim piece that covers the inside seam between the retainers

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