Chinese MSD Distributor Tips & Tricks + Budget ignition Demo

[Clatter]

Saw this thread back at the top thought I'd follow up..

After the car started acting up i suspected my $20 MSD 6A and free Blaster SS.
Only because it was so cheap and it was the last thing i changed.
Replaced the coil with a new one and it didn't fix the issue.
Then went back to the stock ignition and still no love.

After trying on a different set of carbs it became obvious it wasn't the ignition.
Stupid Kadrons the emulsion tube falls off the air jet.

This fooled me first time i took the carbs apart.
You would never know unless you pull the air jet.
(have to use a drywall screw that mangles the jet )

So back on with the MSD stuff and it's all running good again.
Even with my free coil!
So just because it's free or cheap doesn't mean it's bad.
Wonder how often an ignition has been blamed for a fuel problem?
Probably more often than not.


Anther thing i was trying to fix with my ignition was a loading up problem.
Running Kadrons with a big cam means a puckety idle that causes one cylinder to run rich and another lean on the same head.
This can be a challenge when you sit and idle all the time like we do here in Santa Cruz.

When my kid was learning to drive the car would load up and stall a lot.
I'm good about winding it up and clearing it out because i drove these things for years.

Putting the MSD CDI and coil seems to have stopped the problem.
It will idle and idle without stalling.
It also won't stall on tip-in like it did before.
A regular person can drive it in traffic now.
You don't have to be me!

I'm also noticing the stink is down a lot too.
You don't smell like exhaust as much after driving the car.

So,
Yeah,
This was a great improvement for me here.
Big thanks to Jeff for putting this up.

Best 20 bucks i ever spent!
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[jpaull]

[jpaull]

Clatter,

Glad you reported back on your setup too! There is always something to "throw us off" when working on a upgrade. Your transparency is always humbling.

Being able to get a healthy boost in performance AND reliable system for low out of pocket is the spirit of this thread.

[Witnin01340]

Thanks jjpaul for mentioning the timing kit that rayjay mentioned.

I know theres little more power in this engine but at this time i need that kit and dont have it yet,but will soon and will post back results in near future.

[rayjay]

[zorravw]

Good morning, currently my distributor that had a cb performance in my car just broke down, and I am interested in calculating that distributor, seeing the positive comments, will they have the most recent ebay link for the product to be able to purchase it? Currently in my car I bring a msd 6al box with msd cables and a msd blaster 8207 coil, thanking you for your support. Cheers

[rayjay]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/262592812986

This one doesn't appear to have the extra springs, adv limiting bushings or the clamp kit. You might look around on Ebay and see if any other vendors have the full kit. Otherwise you have to buy the stuff from MSD or Summit or Jegs or ebay.

[67rustavenger]

[madmike]

Jeff ask for a Photo of my Sparkler's The wife even helped this is at Idle MSD 7al-2 & msd Distributor

Thanks again,Jeff,, Cheers,Mike
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76 Drag/Street bug 2180cc 'Turbo' 11:85 @113 mph"If I go any faster I'll burn up the Hamster" ,gets 28 mpg. also 10/09/22 11.90 @115 mph
"If I'm ever on Life Support,UNPLUG Me, Then Plug me back In see if that Works"

[jpaull]

Mike did something unique above. He combined a old analog MSD 7AL2 with a old school Mallory promaster 28880 coil. Great combo!

Thanks for posting the pictures of the spark mike, its nice to get a visual that the 7al2 is exploiting that coil to the max and everything is healthy. I bet it runs nice

[madmike]

Hey Jeff, Yes it runs nice ,starts right up , to bad we have 8+ inches of snow on the ground with 18* or I'd take it for a spin, luv to try out the 2 step
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'Black Ice'Drag Buggy 'Turbo'
Rail Buggy 1915 turbo
76 Drag/Street bug 2180cc 'Turbo' 11:85 @113 mph"If I go any faster I'll burn up the Hamster" ,gets 28 mpg. also 10/09/22 11.90 @115 mph
"If I'm ever on Life Support,UNPLUG Me, Then Plug me back In see if that Works"

[67rustavenger]

I have a question on the original Crane Hi6N CDI, MSD Clone, LS-92 coil setup.

On my OG ignition build. Even though I connected the tack wire to the, IIRC white trigger wire.
I couldn't get a tach signal.

What is needed to get the tach to work correctly with the above CDI system?

Mine is VDO in dash mini tach. I may, in the near future use something like an Auto-Meter large tach.

I'm collecting the goodies to replace the OG CDI. Mine was stolen.
Along with my car over a year ago. Got the car back, not the ignition system.
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[jpaull]

The White wire is the correct tach output. All your cdi/gauge ground wires connected?

VDO tachs I know nothing about, anyone know any differences between a VDO that are different then other tachs?

[Clatter]

[jpaull]

Thanks Clatter! I was guessing someone out there knew. Appreciate the link.

Rusty, For $125 for a adapter, it might be time to think of a different brand like autometer that doesn't need a adapter.

[67rustavenger]

[madmike]

Nothing sez "In your Face" like Autometer

Here,,,Kitty,kitty
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'Black Ice'Drag Buggy 'Turbo'
Rail Buggy 1915 turbo
76 Drag/Street bug 2180cc 'Turbo' 11:85 @113 mph"If I go any faster I'll burn up the Hamster" ,gets 28 mpg. also 10/09/22 11.90 @115 mph
"If I'm ever on Life Support,UNPLUG Me, Then Plug me back In see if that Works"

[67rustavenger]

Crane Hi6N harness question.

I'm building a new harness for my replacement CDI ignition.
On the smaller, red black distributor cables, they are shielded.
Should these two cables be run separate from the switched power, coil, and main power cables?

This go around. I'm using Deutsch connectors.
Damn, that is a slick connector setup! I wish I would have bought these connectors earlier.
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I have learned over the years.
Cheap parts are gonna disappoint you.
Buy Once, Cry Once!

There's never enough time to do it right the first time. But there's always enough time to do it thrice.
GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo!

[madmike]

Yes,Keep the Shielded diz wires away from the rest
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'Black Ice'Drag Buggy 'Turbo'
Rail Buggy 1915 turbo
76 Drag/Street bug 2180cc 'Turbo' 11:85 @113 mph"If I go any faster I'll burn up the Hamster" ,gets 28 mpg. also 10/09/22 11.90 @115 mph
"If I'm ever on Life Support,UNPLUG Me, Then Plug me back In see if that Works"

[jimmyhoffa]

FWIW I've never had VDO tachs work with... any ignition system. I'm convinced, like their GPS speed sender, that they have actually never produced a tachometer that works and they've just been really good at PR/damage control. I think my 3 different wildly inaccurate floaty-needle VDO tachs is pretty decent evidence. I once got one to work on a very specific ignition system with a trial-and-error resistor capacitor filter combo and a Zener diode. Then one day it stopped and never worked right again.
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