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Homey '71
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 Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:10 pm Post subject: Interior seals for jalousie windows. |
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| My Jalousie window edges are exposed on the inside, showing off my rusty screws, and some of the mis-drills from the Westy conversion company, What do people use to cover that area around the windows to make it look cleaner? |
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poptop tom
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| Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:00 am Post subject: |
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There was an actual seal made for the interior jalousie window. I found one in a parts bus a while back. Here is a pic.
About its only function is to hide the frame portion. Doesn't really provide much in the way of being a seal that stops air or mositure from entering.
Unfortunately, I only found the one. My search will continue for a 2nd one.
Not sure why so few exist. I've not seen one sold by any of the vendors, nor I have ever seen any in the classifieds.
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ChuckShultz
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| Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:50 am Post subject: |
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| Replace the screws with stainless. |
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Mountain Minstrel
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| Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:01 am Post subject: |
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Still looking for another jalousie interior seal? what would one be worth today?
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vw76westy
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| Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:50 am Post subject: |
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| what would one be worth today? |
i have seen them sell for as much as $200 a pair
although most of the time i see that its 1 for $75
"most of the time" is defined as =2 maybe 3 times a year
between samba classifieds & the 52 shows/swap meets that happen
here in southern california
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Mountain Minstrel
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| Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:50 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Raul, that is what I needed to know.
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68nofussbus
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| Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 9:01 am Post subject: |
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| I looked for them for my 72 and couldnt find them any where . I just kept the curtains closed to hide the screws, I got another bus and there were two there - kinda a pain in the butt because there stretched out and fall off the window frames constantly, before i paid 200 I would engineer some thing a little cheaper , actually I didnt even know they existed till I read the bentley book. good luck |
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otiswesty
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| Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:37 am Post subject: |
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I found them falling off of the interior frames also. Especially the one on the sliding door window. A solution is to put a bit of sticky substance on the metal edge. I just ended up putting in the 78-79 sliders, but am getting ready to put the jaluoise windows back in, with those interior gaskets.
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static
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| Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:52 am Post subject: |
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When is someone (Wolfsburg West?) going to repro these?
They don't have to be the highest quality, just sorta grey and rubber. |
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vw76westy
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| Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:27 am Post subject: |
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When is someone (Wolfsburg West?) going to repro these?
They don't have to be the highest quality, just sorta grey and rubber. |
when they believe that they can sell
enough seals at a high enough price
to cover the cost of having the mold for these made
how many people in this world do you think have
jelouse windows & would spend $$$(im guessing $35-$60 each)
for a new repo seal.....that is not the highest quality
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pjalau
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I think what Static is saying is:
These don't need to be made out of unobtanium. They are simple molds, and a fair number of people have been looking for them for a while.
Assuming that Wolfsburg and/or any other manufacturer who has the means to have them made actually made them, advertised them, etc... they would fly out the door.
My 0.02.
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1970fun
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notchboy
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| Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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Having them made is easy. It justs take $. The hard part is getting all you tire kicking feet draggers to buy them.
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vw76westy
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| Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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Having them made is easy. It justs take $. The hard part is getting all you tire kicking feet draggers to buy them.
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that was my point here...
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how many people in this world do you think have
jelouse windows & would spend $$$(im guessing $35-$60 each)
for a new repo seal.....that is not the highest quality |
everyone wants them but not to many people
are willing to break open their wallet & buy them
and thats X2 in this economy
things like this might not cost alot per piece to make
as long as your making 10,000 of them or more
lets say it cost $25 each to make, if you make 1000, thats $25k
if you sell say 300 a year (thats almost one a day) at $50each
it would take 2 years just to recoup your cost (& thats 1000 made not 10,000)
now lets go back to reallity,
how many of you are willing to spend
$100 for a pair of repoduction inner seals
can you get 500 people to commit to buying them at $50 each
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notchboy
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| Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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Having them made is easy. It justs take $. The hard part is getting all you tire kicking feet draggers to buy them.
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that was my point here...
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how many people in this world do you think have
jelouse windows & would spend $$$(im guessing $35-$60 each)
for a new repo seal.....that is not the highest quality |
everyone wants them but not to many people
are willing to break open their wallet & buy them
and thats X2 in this economy
things like this might not cost alot per piece to make
as long as your making 10,000 of them or more
lets say it cost $25 each to make, if you make 1000, thats $25k
if you sell say 300 a year (thats almost one a day) at $50each
it would take 2 years just to recoup your cost (& thats 1000 made not 10,000)
now lets go back to reallity,
how many of you are willing to spend
$100 for a pair of repoduction inner seals
can you get 500 people to commit to buying them at $50 each |
Thats the right formula but I dont think it would cost that much. Simon it the UK has made several rubber bits for the T3 crowd and always seems to keep the price down. But then again the T3 people will buy a part when it gets repoped unlike most bay owners that think this stuff is cheap and pleantiful. I think that if these were made it would have to be on a $ down affair. That way the person doing all the leg work and construction wont get the shaft. I think a 100 units for under $100 a pair is doable. In most cases more are made and sold to TOA in Japan and ISPWest in the states as well as many other vendors.
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Desertbusman
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Of all parts on a bus, this is one that if it was made in China it would probably be better than it needs to be. I don't think it serves any purpose other than to look purdie'. And it's not exposed to any wear or enviornment that will harm it.
Actually if anyone had a straight long length seal with a worthwhile cross-section we could easily wrap it around, cut the length and splice it.
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Homey '71
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| Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 9:44 pm Post subject: Re: Interior seals for jalousie windows. |
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| Ha! I still hadn't figured this out...Thanks for the heads up! |
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onetofixit
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| Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 5:19 am Post subject: Re: Interior seals for jalousie windows. |
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I’m pleased with these seals from NLA in UK. It was challenging to figure out how to install them. Just takes patience and time. Reach one finger behind the seal and one in front. Simply push the seal over the edge of the window frame. It barely goes over about 1/8”. Just enough. Push the seals on all the way around.
They are still a bit wavy but think they may smooth out during summer with heat.
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