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Thompson2
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In my hunt for some random info, I stumbled across this thread and realized that 7/63 isn’t represented in the list. The stamping was super light, so I’m including a couple of pics.
The info I’m still looking for is -> What does one of these wheels weigh? Trying to figure out logistics for a potential purchase…
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70bus 
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| Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:49 pm Post subject: Re: 15" bus rim discussion thread |
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Thanks Kommercial; I did see the other stampings - if present - were in the inner groove... but where? Are they randomly done, or, like the date code, always in the same spot, and what spot? Near valve stem, or opposite, or...
I could strip the whole inner groove I suppose, but would rather focus on the proper location. One is repainted flat black in there, so no loss, but the other might be original paint FWIW.
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Kommercial
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| Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:39 pm Post subject: Re: 15" bus rim discussion thread |
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| 70bus wrote: |
Pics of above- mentioned date codes. Maybe someone can tease out what’s below the 8. Sometimes I think the second number is a 2…
And I would still appreciate knowing the best place to look for stampings on inner groove; I haven’t found any yet but at least one has been repainted. |
Here is the inside location
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70bus
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| Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 6:49 pm Post subject: Re: 15" bus rim discussion thread |
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Pics of above- mentioned date codes. Maybe someone can tease out what’s below the 8. Sometimes I think the second number is a 2…
And I would still appreciate knowing the best place to look for stampings on inner groove; I haven’t found any yet but at least one has been repainted.
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70bus
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| Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2024 9:59 pm Post subject: Re: 15" bus rim discussion thread |
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Is there a standardized place for stampings in the inner groove, like below the stem, or 180 deg opposite… or random?
I have two 15” rims, and while I found the face stampings on one - 12/60 all that’s left of the other is an 8 for the month. Trying to get off thick layers of paint with a brass brush took off some of the 8 but revealed nothing blow the divider line. I’d like to find the inner groove code for it but without randomly scraping the whole wheel, or removing the date by being too aggressive.
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Malokin Martin
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| Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2024 5:47 pm Post subject: Re: 15" bus rim discussion thread |
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| There used to be a fair bit of horse trading in this thread. Anyone have a 10/61 available? Any condition that’s not crazy bent |
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earlywesty
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| Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:04 am Post subject: Re: 15" bus rim discussion thread |
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Thanks for the heads up guys, I guess in my over excitement for trying to get 15" wheels i measured them wrong. I did measure them across the outer lip. I never had 15" wheels on my bus and I was excited to find some. I guess my hunt for proper wheels continues............
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I am local to you and have some extra 15" bus wheels if interested. |
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Alan Brase
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| Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:24 pm Post subject: Re: 15" bus rim discussion thread |
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| mastorna wrote: |
| I’m looking for 2 more March 63 (3/63) 15” rims in good condition if anyone has any. |
One thing you might keep in mind: Probably a very large fraction (1/4-1/3) of these came out the door with 2 different months or even 2 different brands of wheels. If different brands, They might even differ by 2 months.
Don't make the perfect the enemy of the good.
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mastorna
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| Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:19 pm Post subject: Re: 15" bus rim discussion thread |
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| I’m looking for 2 more March 63 (3/63) 15” rims in good condition if anyone has any. |
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Alan Brase
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| Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:02 pm Post subject: Re: 15" bus rim discussion thread |
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| Matt58veedub wrote: |
Thanks for the heads up guys, I guess in my over excitement for trying to get 15" wheels i measured them wrong. I did measure them across the outer lip. I never had 15" wheels on my bus and I was excited to find some. I guess my hunt for proper wheels continues............
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BDTD!
I've looked at a LOT of wheels trying to find some for my 12/55 single cab. Still looking 14 years after this thread started. I have found a few! I do have some very nice earlier /55's listed for TRADE only in my classified ads.
It is usually quite easy to see the difference between 14 and 15 bus wheels:
On 14's the metal curves rather sharper to where it is welded to the rim and
from the hubcap side one can NOT see the space between the center and the rim. On the 15's it is quite easy to see the 4 air gap and I guess on a 1963 big brake car one could probably see the brake drum thru the gap.
Note: the recently shown 1954 dated wheels have somewhat different centers from normal 1955-1963 wheels.
Given their provenance, they are likely genuine VW type 2 prototypes. but Opel and Ford also made wheels 5 on 205 during this early time frame.
BTW, Some years back I was formerly known as 69Doublecab. Since I sold that car after about 30 years driving (To a nice older guy in Miami), I've decided just using my family name makes more sense at this point.
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Matt58veedub
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| Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:02 am Post subject: Re: 15" bus rim discussion thread |
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Thanks for the heads up guys, I guess in my over excitement for trying to get 15" wheels i measured them wrong. I did measure them across the outer lip. I never had 15" wheels on my bus and I was excited to find some. I guess my hunt for proper wheels continues............
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earlywesty
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| Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 6:25 pm Post subject: Re: 15" bus rim discussion thread |
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If you are measuring the diameter of the entire outer lip, it measures 1" larger.
14s measure 15"
15s measure 16"
etc.
Type 3 15" wheel but same idea:
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Okie Adam
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| Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:59 pm Post subject: Re: 15" bus rim discussion thread |
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Where are you measuring and getting 15"?
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Matt58veedub
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| Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:51 pm Post subject: Re: 15" bus rim discussion thread |
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| These are 15" I measured them and held them next to my 14" rims. I thought they were 14" from the pictures I got of them but when I went to check them out and measured them they are 14". The valve stems match the lug nut hole , maybe they changed them up a bit later in the manufacture cycle, they are dated well beyond the date buses were sold with 15" wheels. |
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Clara
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| Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:11 pm Post subject: Re: 15" bus rim discussion thread |
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Just picked these up today for $10 each, date stamp looks to say 8/67 best I can read.
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These look like 14" bus rims, not 15" bus rims.
note the 4 large slots in the 15" bus rims
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Matt58veedub
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| Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:45 pm Post subject: Re: 15" bus rim discussion thread |
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Just picked these up today for $10 each, date stamp looks to say 8/67 best I can read.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:33 pm Post subject: Re: 15" bus rim discussion thread |
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I have three 11/62 wheels
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dmuis
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| Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:52 pm Post subject: Re: 15" bus rim discussion thread |
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Might be worth updating the list at the front of this thread to include the 4/54 dated smooth face Lemmerz rims with 3/54 barrels. We now have evidence of 4 in existance(3 silver white, and 1 pgsg)
Added this pic of Longroof’s pgsg rim barrel:
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