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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 3:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Best starter for Subaru converted Vanagon Reply with quote

That Autozone starter I can comment on - the one I got was making a hideous noise. I took it in, and it tested bad, so they gave me a replacement (lifetime warranty! - that's the good!). I'm still hearing the same noise. Maybe it's not the starter.

But it starts every time, no problem.

I just put in a low mileage JDM 2.2L Subaru motor, so I'm in for another long haul with Vanagon adventure.

Westyventures, thanks for making that adapter plate available again!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Best starter for Subaru converted Vanagon Reply with quote

unloneliestonie wrote:
Only went with this option because the adapter plates were out of stock. Hopefully it holds up!


Back in stock as of today. Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Best starter for Subaru converted Vanagon Reply with quote

Old thread but I'll contribute that with my 2.5 I swapped a junkyard 91' vanagon starter in place of the 1.9 original & it has made a world of difference with the hot engine starts. Only went with this option because the adapter plates were out of stock. Hopefully it holds up!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:22 am    Post subject: Autozone Duralast starter review Reply with quote

The starter has worked fine since I got it. The Subibus is not my daily driver, but no issues with the starter, and it has a lifetime guarantee, so pretty good cheap option.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 5:12 pm    Post subject: Autozone Reply with quote

Autozone part # 17703 Duralast starter will serve as BOSCH SR0408X replacement - 104.99 dollars lifetime warranty.

Unfortunately, I thought I was just replacing a bad Vanagon starter - turns out my '97 2.2L Subie may have a serious problem. So I cannot yet give you judgement on the Autozone Duralast starter.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll letchya know when I have that problem, ken. 90GL /90 2.2. My starter has a remanufactured sticker on the side of it. how much is the sr----starter and your adapter?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:39 pm    Post subject: Re: BEWARE of WPS starter... I'm going to have to go BOSCH n Reply with quote

buffbuh wrote:

It made a horrendous clacking sound. I thought that the external gear had stripped, or worse my fly wheel??!! External gears were fine.

Taking the starter apart, it appears to be a flaw in design. Connecting internal gears do not fully engage, just the tip of them, and over a short period of time, it wears and rides on stripped end. (I should have taken a picture when I had it apart!) Plenty of gear for engagement, but it looked like by design, they could not engage fully.
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I wonder if you got a bad one or if you saw a real design flaw ..
the other thing i wonder if you MAYBE were getting low voltage =High Amps at the starter & MAYBE getting partial engagement & that triggered the wear

Kinda interesting now that I have tracked who makes the the WPS starters & found some more distributors in traditional auto channels & they are saying they have no issues with this particular starter ie the 2-1974-BO
http://search.waiglobal.com/partsearch/partnum.aspx?part=2-1974-BO
They do say that it is kinda like all products fron china there are good & bad in the wps line ..
2 distributors I spoke with gives this the thumbs up
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

to me, the best starter for a subaru converted van is----------- a SUBARU starter! that would mean you would need a smallcar or RJES bellhousing though. which probably isnt an option (already converted). I've done conversions using VW starters, and im really diggin the bellhousing set up
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my case my starter is coming as a freebie from my trusty TDI mechanic who takes care of my 2 TDIs.

Too bad I can not afford a TDI in our automatic Westy.......
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

westyventures wrote:
Thanks for the pics Ben! I've been wondering how well the adaptors are working on the SVX. Have you guys tested the automatic versions yet? :S

Where do you find starters for $20??? I'd like to have a couple if you can find a few that cheap!




Where do you find starters for $20???

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just found this post
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showpost.php?p=2373805&postcount=518
SR0409X is a 2KW with 10 teeth and CCW rotation
vs
the SR0408X 1.8KW 10 tooth CCW

hmm if that right i guess you want the SR0409X
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I C 2 different part number for the manual version of the TDI starter
Bosch SR0408X and SR0409X

what is the differenence

I have seen that SR0407X is for automatics but KarlM adapter choice makes the manual version work with ONLY the manual version of the starter ..


408 and 409 seem to be the same as far as I can tell.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I C 2 different part number for the manual version of the TDI starter
Bosch SR0408X and SR0409X

what is the differenence

I have seen that SR0407X is for automatics but KarlM adapter choice makes the manual version work with ONLY the manual version of the starter ..
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe BuffBuh has a Subaru conversion - many have found the stock WBX starter not quite powerful enough to start these when hot. That's why they are now using the SR0408X and my adaptor (made right down on Main St.) Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buff!
can you recreate the failing condition on your driveway? do so if you can and cool the starter with water. try, like ben said, tapping it with a wrench, hammer or whatever you can get up in there. If either of these make it work, then your armature is worn out and you need to rebuild or replace the starter. you will save shipping, help your local economy and cut to the chase. a healthy 2.1 starter is all you need unless you want to rube goldberg it. [complicate] there's some rebuild shop in your town that needs the work. lets bring main street back a little.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tclark wrote:
hmm I thought all jetta TDI 96-2003 had the same starter according to what i read here
can you link to a pic of what is called a self-supporting shaft.


Look at the ebay link above - it has a good photo of the correct starter.

edit: here is the 17703 starter, the correct one:
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores...9228455___
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

westyventures wrote:

The Advance Auto starter, if pictured as the part you are buying, is not the correct starter - the TDI starter has a self-supporting shaft.

hmm I thought all jetta TDI 96-2006 had the same starter according to what i read here & that ebay link
can you link to a pic of what is called a self-supporting shaft.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hopefully that [Chinese] starter was just a fluke and they are not all that way, because the price is great!

The Advance Auto starter, if pictured as the part you are buying, is not the correct starter - the TDI starter has a self-supporting shaft. Note also that at that price you're most likely getting just another Chinese starter. All manufacturers are heading that direction, unfortunately, to stay competitive.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:31 am    Post subject: Re: BEWARE of WPS starter... I'm going to have to go BOSCH n Reply with quote

buffbuh wrote:
I can't recommend that WPS starter anymore.
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IS this what you call a WPS
is from CALIFORNIA ALTERNATOR AND STARTER
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300277150519

buffbuh wrote:
I just plan to bite the bullet and use it as a core towards a rebuilt SR0408X Bosch.

also Advance auto Part No. 16939/17703 has reman Bosh started for a very sharp price
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_Starter-Worldwide_3081974-P_123_R
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:24 am    Post subject: BEWARE of WPS starter... I'm going to have to go BOSCH now.. Reply with quote

I can't recommend that WPS starter anymore. It worked like a CHARM for a while, and the power is a GREAT upgrade from stock starter, so I STILL want the upgrade. BUT I will have to choose a different brand starter. After a few months with the WPS, I could hold the starter gear with my hand and stop it from spinning. In the car, it would not spin nor start my car. I should have posted this earlier - just a lot on my plate lately, so I'm glad you inquired.

It made a horrendous clacking sound. I thought that the external gear had stripped, or worse my fly wheel??!! External gears were fine.

Taking the starter apart, it appears to be a flaw in design. Connecting internal gears do not fully engage, just the tip of them, and over a short period of time, it wears and rides on stripped end. (I should have taken a picture when I had it apart!) Plenty of gear for engagement, but it looked like by design, they could not engage fully.

I did talk to the seller about it, and he agreed to replace it for me, but why would I want to risk having the same starter with the same design? I just plan to bite the bullet and use it as a core towards a rebuilt SR0408X Bosch.

MJM Autohaus seems like a good price online - HAS ANYONE INPUT OR REVIEW ON MJM AUTOHAUS?

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