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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2023 11:33 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck (21F) Reply with quote

Yes, I checked that before I bought the pump. The stock OEM Muffler has the preheat tube on the right side, so does the NOS Leistritz which I still have as a replacement. Once I have used them up, I need to make sure to get the right type. I would probably got with some kind of stainless steel replacement.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2023 11:23 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck (21F) Reply with quote

Thats a great option vs. a full flow setup as no hoses to deal with. Just have to be sure your exhaust will clear.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2023 10:07 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck (21F) Reply with quote

Today the weather was good for the first time in awhile. The van was due for an oil change. And I had planned to replace the oil pump with one with a filter.

Unfortunately the studs were a bit short, I ended up screwing them out a couple of mm. I think I might replace them the next time I do an oil change.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2023 1:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck (21F) Reply with quote

TRS63 wrote:
Great update, happy to see you enjoyed the bus this year!

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Thank you Antoine. Unfortunately I couldn't use it as much as the previous years. Spent most of my vacation time in the US this year. Unfortunately couldn't take the bus with me.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2023 1:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck (21F) Reply with quote

notchboy wrote:
Always nice work Michael Applause Cool


Thank you Jason, had some help from two friends. Was fun to work on it together.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2023 4:31 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck (21F) Reply with quote

Great update, happy to see you enjoyed the bus this year!

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:30 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck (21F) Reply with quote

Always nice work Michael Applause Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck (21F) Reply with quote

All of the measurements are in these drawings:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/local_manufacture/tools-600-649.pdf

The toolnumber is 609

I was not able to bent the tubes, that's why I chose to cut and weld.

The clamp I used is a standard industry part I bought used from eBay.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck (21F) Reply with quote

Clever idea for the trans adaptor. Is the angle for the axle tube supports based on how the axle tubes sit installed in the bus?

Or what is the angle relative to horizontal?

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 12:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck (21F) Reply with quote

Yes, I do. In fact I posted them on the first page of this thread.

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This was one of the tools I built in preparation for this build. I used the drawing from the Special Service Tools - Local Manufacture of Tools section on TheSamba. https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/local_manufacture.php

I took the freedom to adapt the design to my technical capabilities and made it fit to my floor jack.

You can see the other tools I made on page one of this build thread.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 12:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck (21F) Reply with quote

Do you have any other pics of the jack adapter that hokds the axle tubes up?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:27 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck (21F) Reply with quote

I have an update on this thread.

I had to reseal the transmission and replace the fuel sender. The new Brazilian VDO sender is crap and the needle of the instrument was showing only intermittently what the fuel level was.

I upgraded to this nice and shiny Kienzle-VDO unit which is meant for use in boats. It has the same mounting and a slightly different ohm range (90 - 4 ohms) and the original had something like (75 - 4 ohms). I am using a 430ohm resistor in parallel to make up for the difference.

The new sender can be found here: https://vdo-webshop.nl/nl/54mm-brandstof-buis-sens...26321.html

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Pulling the tranny and resealing it:
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 10:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck (21F) Reply with quote

Hi Nick,

I think I figured most of it out, but I couldn't try it out because I had converted my bus to 12V and the black box and the horns are 6V.

I am working on restoring a 63 Type3 that will keep the 6V. Once I get a battery for that I can test the system.

But, I can see if I can find my notes and then post them here.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:21 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck (21F) Reply with quote

Just when though all the pics, amazing resto mate, did you ever get the diagram for the sirens and lights? I have the big black box for my ambulance but have no idea how to wire them up.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck (21F) Reply with quote

Great trip and pictures! Thanks for sharing!! Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck (21F) Reply with quote

Great pictures, thanks for posting.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck (21F) Reply with quote

This years travels took me and my bus to Sweden and France

I spent my summer vacation n Sweden with some VW friends and met a bunch of Swedish VW enthusiasts.

I drove up through northern Germany, Denmark and the by Ferry to Sweden.

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Drove hundreds of mile on dirt roads
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Met other VW
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Early October I drove all the way to Lapalisse in France for this years edition of the recreation of the historic traffic jam. Up until the highway was built in the mid 60ies a gigantic traffic jam would build up when the Parisians took off on vacation towards the Mediterranean. This traffic jam is recreate every two years with historic vehicles. Lots of people get all dressed up in period clothing and drive around town with anything that moves.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck (21F) Reply with quote

Yes! Let’s grab a drink then Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:11 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck (21F) Reply with quote

Thank you Andy.

I hope to see your 66 Square someday, maybe in Spa?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:38 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck (21F) Reply with quote

Hi Michael,

Just found this topic and read through it, very nice work you have don creating your own tools and saving the bus! Very nice to see you also using brantho Cool
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