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Abscate Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 12:37 pm Post subject: Re: Interesting Family History Stories |
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| a staggering achievement and all done with basic navigation aids and landing beacons. |
There was a realization that the tri-carriage flat load carrying plane ( Lockheed ?connie?) was much faster to unload than the tippy Dc_3
This is f* hilarious…..AI feed on this…
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| While Lockheed aircraft like the C-130 Hercules were present at the Berlin Airlift 75th anniversary celebration in 2024, the main aircraft used during the 1948-1949 airlift were not Lockheed-built. The primary planes for the operation included American Douglas C-54s and C-47s, as well as British and American Avro Yorks and Vickers Valettas, and other transport aircraft like the de Havilland Comet, which were critical for supplying the city during the Soviet blockade. |
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finster Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 12:28 pm Post subject: Re: Interesting Family History Stories |
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a staggering achievement and all done with basic navigation aids and landing beacons. _________________ "we're here on Earth to fart around" kurt vonnegut
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 11:31 am Post subject: Re: Interesting Family History Stories |
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| had never heard of the Berlin Airlift before |
That event was arguably the defining moment in the arguably most defining expertise of the uSAF…the ability to move stuff. |
1000 plane bombing raids beg to differ. |
Delivering bombs and middles is child’s play compared to feeding and heating a city during winter. The flow control and management of airspace of both THE US and UK forces was invented during the Berlin Airlift.
In the modern era, we keep a lot of bad behavior in check knowing we can deploy and supply troops anywhere in the world both under our and NATO flags. _________________ 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🍊 🍊 🍊 |
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pondoras box Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 11:23 am Post subject: Re: Interesting Family History Stories |
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| had never heard of the Berlin Airlift before |
That event was arguably the defining moment in the arguably most defining expertise of the uSAF…the ability to move stuff. |
1000 plane bombing raids beg to differ. |
Yikes didn’t mean to start anything here. I was young then it was the early 90’s and hadn’t really taken a liking to history yet. In fact this might be a defining moment in my life. His stories intrigued me and internet hadn’t been introduced to the public yet. You only could research what you had books to read with.
Yes all of the US Army Air Corps did was very impressive. The bombing campaign and post war airlift logistics. Air Force didn’t exist yet.
Royal Air Force also very impressive, holding air superiority over the UK before anyone showed up to help.
Let’s be nice and share cool stories ya bunch of boomers! _________________ Looking for anything from Hal Casey Motors out of Hamburg New York, from license plate surrounds to matchbooks.
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zerotofifty Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 10:40 am Post subject: Re: Interesting Family History Stories |
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| had never heard of the Berlin Airlift before |
That event was arguably the defining moment in the arguably most defining expertise of the uSAF…the ability to move stuff. |
1000 plane bombing raids beg to differ. _________________ Sorry About That Chief.
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finster Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 4:13 am Post subject: Re: Interesting Family History Stories |
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| had never heard of the Berlin Airlift before |
That event was arguably the defining moment in the arguably most defining expertise of the uSAF…the ability to move stuff. |
...working alongside the RAF _________________ "we're here on Earth to fart around" kurt vonnegut
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Abscate Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 5:41 pm Post subject: Re: Interesting Family History Stories |
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| had never heard of the Berlin Airlift before |
That event was arguably the defining moment in the arguably most defining expertise of the uSAF…the ability to move stuff. _________________ 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🍊 🍊 🍊 |
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finster Samba Member

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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 9:49 am Post subject: Re: Interesting Family History Stories |
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my dad did his national service around the time of the berlin airlift. he chose the RAF but ended up in coastal command based at kinloss learning 'if it moves salute it, if stationary paint it'. he was trained on radar to watch for soviet planes over the north sea, however it turned out he was red/green colourblind
in the 80s I worked with guys who had been aircrew on the airlift - they were all stone deaf from the engine noise. _________________ "we're here on Earth to fart around" kurt vonnegut
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pondoras box Samba Member

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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 5:54 am Post subject: Re: Interesting Family History Stories |
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About 3 miles away from the airfield I mentioned above was an older guy that had a field full of Volkswagens. This was in the early 90’s so these types of places still existed. But talked to the guy about the cars and buying parts, but nothing was for sale. I noticed an aircraft prop on the wall in his entry way. Being I was in school to get my airframe and power plant certification I asked if he was in aviation. That opened a whole new world for him. He was one of the pilots for the Berlin Airlift operation. It was like the scene out of Sandlot. Old house older guy that was grumpy and unapproachable. Once we found common ground we talked for hours. He showed me pictures and memorabilia from his flying days. I had never heard of the Berlin Airlift before. He still had one of the little parachutes they used to drop candy and stuff.
But alas, no cars or parts were ever for sale. He just enjoyed having them and I respected that. I stopped by occasionally and we talked VW’s. Never let go of any VW’s but he introduced me to yellow meat watermelons that he grew in his garden. If you’ve never had one try it. Hard to find in stores though.
I had forgotten about this gentleman and glad this thread reminded me about him. _________________ Looking for anything from Hal Casey Motors out of Hamburg New York, from license plate surrounds to matchbooks.
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1957 Oval ragtop
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finster Samba Member

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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 4:12 am Post subject: Re: Interesting Family History Stories |
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| I had dinner one night with the guy who armed the Hiroshima bomb. Talk about a conversation stopper. It still haunted him. 1990s |
were you a 'little boy' and was he a 'fat man'? _________________ "we're here on Earth to fart around" kurt vonnegut
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 1:40 am Post subject: Re: Interesting Family History Stories |
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I had dinner one night with the guy who armed the Hiroshima bomb. Talk about a conversation stopper. It still haunted him. 1990s _________________ 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🍊 🍊 🍊 |
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Xevin  Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2025 5:01 pm Post subject: Re: Interesting Family History Stories |
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I went to grade school with a girl whose dad escaped the communists. He was in the 1956 Olympics for Romania's team, and escaped at the Olympics. He basically said fuck the communists and left. He went to America after he defected and became a medical doctor. I was treated by him many years later
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Last coach I ever played for. He participated in the 1956 Melbourne Olympics and defected to the US. He was not a person to fuck with. Much respect.
Quentin Tarantino was a producer of the movie about it.
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zerotofifty Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2025 4:05 pm Post subject: Re: Interesting Family History Stories |
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My father was a staff officer (non-flying) in the Army Air Corps in WW2. He like most male college students was in ROTC. He graduated from college in 1941 but was unable to find a teaching job. There was a 1 year active duty obligation so he and my Mom decided that he would "get that over with" before going on with their lives. Then Pearl Harbor was attacked and all orders were converted to "For The Duration".
His group was flying B-25s and training in South Carolina. The group received an order to loan 8 aircraft to a special unit being formed by Col. Jimmy Dolittle. My father was the officer who authorized the transfer of the planes. Despite tight security it was pretty obvious to everyone in his group what was going on. The planes practiced very short field takeoffs. Painted on the runway was the outline of an aircraft carrier flight deck.
This all was for the "Doolittle Raid". Those planes took off from the USS Hornet and bombed Tokyo. The physical damage was minimal but the psychological effect on Japan was great. .
None if the planes made it back. The crews that were shot down over Japan were executed. My dad told me that he assumed he was still responsible for the loan of the planes that were never returned.
And despite being a non flying officer, he did quite a number of bombing raid as a copilot. There was a shortage of pilots |
Do you know where in South Carolina he was stationed. I worked at an old decommissioned World War Two air base near Greenville. |
A guy I worked with was the officer on a B36 during the cold war, he had the keys for arming the H-bomb, another guy I worked with was on a ballistic missile sub, and my uncle serviced Titian missiles while in the airforce. college friend worked on the Trident missile for Lockheed, went on the subs. Another Uncle worked on bomb stuff at the Livermore Rad Lab. My Dad worked at WhiteSands missile range back in the 50s.
That is a few people that I know that delt with things that make big noises. They were pretty quiet about the details however. _________________ Sorry About That Chief.
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pondoras box Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2025 2:48 pm Post subject: Re: Interesting Family History Stories |
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My father was a staff officer (non-flying) in the Army Air Corps in WW2. He like most male college students was in ROTC. He graduated from college in 1941 but was unable to find a teaching job. There was a 1 year active duty obligation so he and my Mom decided that he would "get that over with" before going on with their lives. Then Pearl Harbor was attacked and all orders were converted to "For The Duration".
His group was flying B-25s and training in South Carolina. The group received an order to loan 8 aircraft to a special unit being formed by Col. Jimmy Dolittle. My father was the officer who authorized the transfer of the planes. Despite tight security it was pretty obvious to everyone in his group what was going on. The planes practiced very short field takeoffs. Painted on the runway was the outline of an aircraft carrier flight deck.
This all was for the "Doolittle Raid". Those planes took off from the USS Hornet and bombed Tokyo. The physical damage was minimal but the psychological effect on Japan was great. .
None if the planes made it back. The crews that were shot down over Japan were executed. My dad told me that he assumed he was still responsible for the loan of the planes that were never returned.
And despite being a non flying officer, he did quite a number of bombing raid as a copilot. There was a shortage of pilots |
Do you know where in South Carolina he was stationed. I worked at an old decommissioned World War Two air base near Greenville. _________________ Looking for anything from Hal Casey Motors out of Hamburg New York, from license plate surrounds to matchbooks.
1961 23 Window (Bobo)
1965 11 Window (Zelda). https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=563183
1965 13 Window (Lucas)
1957 Oval ragtop
1960 hardtop
1964 hardtop
1965 hardtop (Arschloch)
1973 standard bug (Dirty Gertie)
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=804912
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2025 1:11 pm Post subject: Re: Interesting Family History Stories |
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My Grandfather, Mortimer William Fish has 10 United States Patents issued to him from July 7, 1925 through May 17, 1949 while working for Delco-Light Co, Frigidaire Corp. and General Motors Corp. All having to do with Electrical components and refrigeration. His last patent was for a “Liquid cooler, including agitator motor and heat removing device therefore.” #2,470,551.
My grandmother always had all the latest appliances in her kitchen. Most were test units with counters on them to see how many times a door opened/closed or a switch turn on/off and for how long. She said men from Grandpas plant would come out once a week and take down the reading or switch out appliances. This was still happening after Grandpa retired and I can remember as a child seeing the counters on the fridge. _________________ Prosit!
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2025 7:31 pm Post subject: Re: Interesting Family History Stories |
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My father was a staff officer (non-flying) in the Army Air Corps in WW2. He like most male college students was in ROTC. He graduated from college in 1941 but was unable to find a teaching job. There was a 1 year active duty obligation so he and my Mom decided that he would "get that over with" before going on with their lives. Then Pearl Harbor was attacked and all orders were converted to "For The Duration".
His group was flying B-25s and training in South Carolina. The group received an order to loan 8 aircraft to a special unit being formed by Col. Jimmy Dolittle. My father was the officer who authorized the transfer of the planes. Despite tight security it was pretty obvious to everyone in his group what was going on. The planes practiced very short field takeoffs. Painted on the runway was the outline of an aircraft carrier flight deck.
This all was for the "Doolittle Raid". Those planes took off from the USS Hornet and bombed Tokyo. The physical damage was minimal but the psychological effect on Japan was great. .
None if the planes made it back. The crews that were shot down over Japan were executed. My dad told me that he assumed he was still responsible for the loan of the planes that were never returned.
And despite being a non flying officer, he did quite a number of bombing raid as a copilot. There was a shortage of pilots _________________ Larry in OB
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2025 10:18 am Post subject: Re: Interesting Family History Stories |
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I remember my Grandmother on my Mom's side used to tell us stories when my brother and I were kids (under 10). She was born in the mid 1890s in England and like many at that time, her parents had a dream to resettle in North America.
She said that they were initially planning to take a boat across in 1912 but her Father was ill and ended up passing away so they made the journey the following year in 1913 instead. She said that they were initially trying to buy tickets on the Titanic and was grateful that they didn't as they would have been in the lower decks and most likely, not have survived. _________________ *******************************
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2025 9:10 am Post subject: Re: Interesting Family History Stories |
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| Not my family but we had a neighbor where we used to live who claimed her father was one of the Trujillo assassins in 1961. The U.S. then got him and his family safely out of the Dominican Republic. |
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2025 6:51 am Post subject: Re: Interesting Family History Stories |
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Not my family but still interesting is there is a real estate agent in Erie, PA who’s late husband was one of the guys who defected from the USSR in a MIG fighter jet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franciszek_Jarecki
As a weird side note the US Border Patrol station in Erie is at the location where his horse track was located. In fact you drive on the track itself to get to it, paved over now of course. _________________ Looking for anything from Hal Casey Motors out of Hamburg New York, from license plate surrounds to matchbooks.
1961 23 Window (Bobo)
1965 11 Window (Zelda). https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=563183
1965 13 Window (Lucas)
1957 Oval ragtop
1960 hardtop
1964 hardtop
1965 hardtop (Arschloch)
1973 standard bug (Dirty Gertie)
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=804912
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zerotofifty Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2025 10:48 pm Post subject: Re: Interesting Family History Stories |
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| My great grandfather won a gold and bronze medals in the 1904 Summer Olympics held in St Louis. |
I went to grade school with a girl whose dad escaped the communists. He was in the 1956 Olympics for Romania's team, and escaped at the Olympics. He basically said fuck the communists and left. He went to America after he defected and became a medical doctor. I was treated by him many years later for a broken bone. _________________ Sorry About That Chief.
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