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krazkayaker Samba Member

Joined: December 29, 2003 Posts: 101 Location: Canada ( Winnipeg)
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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Caslor....am a noob at this stuff but would assume that whoever you are ordering from should be able to help you out. Try calling CIP...they have great customer service ( you can even order from them too!!!) I am in Canada and thier website is http://www.cip1.ca/ . They also have a site from the US. Try them both...it would be interesting to see where you get the better shipping rate/ dollar exchange.
Good luck and sorry I can't help more.
Cheers from Canada! |
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caslor Samba Member

Joined: October 18, 2006 Posts: 387 Location: Hellas - Greece
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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i have send them 3-4 emails for this subject.. but no answer
it is dificult to call them as my english is not my mother language.
i have order lot of things from cip..
i order from the american site but finaly they send it to me from canada (strange )
my last order was about 600 euros and had to pay in custom service 300euros more to import them
thanks i will try again with email..thanks |
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sciclunam Samba Member
Joined: July 19, 2006 Posts: 51
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 12:36 am Post subject: |
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Hi Guys.
I have read all this thread and couldn't find which are the best shocks for a lowered front?
Mine has been lowered only a couple of inches with SAWs but the ride is awful.... I assume the reason is because the stock height shocks are being used. So I have decided to but shorter ones but I am confused which are best.... gas or oil!
I am afraid gas will make the ride stiffer... but John Muir's manual suggests gas!
What shocks do you guys use? |
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cagstorm Samba Member
Joined: October 23, 2006 Posts: 204 Location: Waco, Texas
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:22 pm Post subject: Rake |
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Hello all,
I am a newby at bugs. I had a '70 as my first car 13 yrs. ago. I did nothing to it but regular maintainance. I am about to buy a 67 and was wondering what the best CHEAPEST way to put a rake on it would be. (Please dont tell me to take my garden rake and place it on the bonnett. I have already thought of that... LOL) Is it best to keep the rear end at stock height? Anybody have any pictures of a bug with rake. I am not looking to go too severe with the rake but would like to have a little bit. I have no idea where to start with this. Would just using drop spindles be enough? I want to stick with stock size rims. Also when you fellas do your front end work, do you have to align it? if yes, do you do it yourself or have it done on a fancy computer and pay the bucks to have it done? |
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ScrapJunkie (O\U|U/O)

Joined: March 17, 2004 Posts: 3977 Location: Hutchinson, Kansas
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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:02 am Post subject: |
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Cheapest way to get a rake:
Raise the rear end. _________________ (O\U|U/O) Top Vw (o\UU/o) |
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bipolaroller Samba Member

Joined: November 05, 2006 Posts: 66 Location: the hills o portland
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 10:28 pm Post subject: another new guy |
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hey guys another "noob".Ive been rollin in vw since i was a kid,but ive never lower'd one.i get the rear end part,and think i'll go like 2 spline.I have a 63 with a stock front end.how can i lower the front if its not an adjustable?my "thing" had an adjustable,so i know how that all works.but this just has like a allen head set screw and nut in the center??is that what i fool with to lower it??any help would be great..i read thru the thread,and i didnt see anything really on non adjust...i think |
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Hiramhaus Samba Member

Joined: October 05, 2006 Posts: 668 Location: IC
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:10 am Post subject: |
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SO not to go off subject or anyting are link pin front ends less desireable by any driving aspect, if propertly maintained? Is there a reason to get new trailing arms and ball joint front end? I have given alot of thought to how to do that, but now I am thinking about why? Should a guy just stick with his 64 link pin and lower with that?
Mike |
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ScrapJunkie (O\U|U/O)

Joined: March 17, 2004 Posts: 3977 Location: Hutchinson, Kansas
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:34 am Post subject: Re: another new guy |
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bipolaroller wrote: |
hey guys another "noob".Ive been rollin in vw since i was a kid,but ive never lower'd one.i get the rear end part,and think i'll go like 2 spline.I have a 63 with a stock front end.how can i lower the front if its not an adjustable?my "thing" had an adjustable,so i know how that all works.but this just has like a allen head set screw and nut in the center??is that what i fool with to lower it??any help would be great..i read thru the thread,and i didnt see anything really on non adjust...i think |
You cannot adjust it if it doesn't have adjusters. Those allen head bolts, and the locknuts are just to keep the torsion bars in check. _________________ (O\U|U/O) Top Vw (o\UU/o) |
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ScrapJunkie (O\U|U/O)

Joined: March 17, 2004 Posts: 3977 Location: Hutchinson, Kansas
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:36 am Post subject: |
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splittyshorty wrote: |
SO not to go off subject or anyting are link pin front ends less desireable by any driving aspect, if propertly maintained? Is there a reason to get new trailing arms and ball joint front end? I have given alot of thought to how to do that, but now I am thinking about why? Should a guy just stick with his 64 link pin and lower with that?
Mike |
You can't swap a balljoint into a linkpin car without massive work. If the car is already balljoint, then someone either swapped pans, or changed the framehead. You have to stick with linkpin if it's the original pan.
There's nothing wrong with linkpin beams, the ride is smooth enough, and personally, I think the ride is much smoother on a lowered early bug, than a late one lowered the same way. _________________ (O\U|U/O) Top Vw (o\UU/o) |
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bipolaroller Samba Member

Joined: November 05, 2006 Posts: 66 Location: the hills o portland
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:43 am Post subject: Re: another new guy |
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thanks.someone told me it would let tention off like a torsion bar would on say an import,thus lowering it...if that set screw was moved forward,could the torsion pack inside rotate which should lower it and keep the same handling as stock hieght? |
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ScrapJunkie (O\U|U/O)

Joined: March 17, 2004 Posts: 3977 Location: Hutchinson, Kansas
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:03 am Post subject: |
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No. Taking that screw out would be letting the torsion bars free, then all the weight of the car would be on the shocks...Yes, it would lower it, until the shocks bottom out, then you blow or break the shocks, then it turns into a nasty gooey mess on the road. _________________ (O\U|U/O) Top Vw (o\UU/o) |
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Hiramhaus Samba Member

Joined: October 05, 2006 Posts: 668 Location: IC
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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Germanpride wrote: |
splittyshorty wrote: |
SO not to go off subject or anyting are link pin front ends less desireable by any driving aspect, if propertly maintained? Is there a reason to get new trailing arms and ball joint front end? I have given alot of thought to how to do that, but now I am thinking about why? Should a guy just stick with his 64 link pin and lower with that?
Mike |
You can't swap a balljoint into a linkpin car without massive work. If the car is already balljoint, then someone either swapped pans, or changed the framehead. You have to stick with linkpin if it's the original pan.
There's nothing wrong with linkpin beams, the ride is smooth enough, and personally, I think the ride is much smoother on a lowered early bug, than a late one lowered the same way. |
This is on a type 2, I have now resolved the problem - I'll stick with what I have - since
a) it works now
b) I think the older design factor makes it cooler
by the way I am talking about the bus on my avitar - or the link below - it seemed to be difficult to replace somthing that works anyhow.
thanks so much
http://www.therubyelephant.com/bus.html |
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ScrapJunkie (O\U|U/O)

Joined: March 17, 2004 Posts: 3977 Location: Hutchinson, Kansas
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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Actually...in that aspect.. 68-69 Bay window beams will bolt right in..although unless you want a high front end, you'll have to get spindles or adjusters to get it back down to "stock" height. _________________ (O\U|U/O) Top Vw (o\UU/o) |
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Hiramhaus Samba Member

Joined: October 05, 2006 Posts: 668 Location: IC
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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I was wondering is the ride improved with a ball joint front, also really want to go lower, which if I went to 68-69 beams I would go up then down. Now current thread thory states that pins will feel smoother lower, BJ bind up. My current plan is to get dropped spindles and then later an ajustable beam, but keep the king pins, since they are original. The bus is missing 42 some squre feet of metal which I believe has raised me up a bit, so more up would be bad, in the end I would like to dial in my suspension height at will. If I could have pins and drums low, that would be cool |
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hemifalcon Samba Member

Joined: June 15, 2005 Posts: 1483 Location: Union Grove, WI
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Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_search.php?search_author=hemifalcon
The link above will take you to the picture gallery where my '62 Sedan is pictured. I have the CB spindles on it, and a 2" narrowed and adjustable front end form Ron Lummus on the front. This is pretty damn low. With a driver, passenger, interior, fuel in the tank, and all the other parts, it's gonna be really low. Really, I think it'll be lower than I want it. You can see by the perspective shots with the paint can, how low the front apron is. Hopefully, when I put the engine in, the weight transfer will affect the front height and bring it up a little bit. Otherwise, I may have to go back to a non-adjustable beam, the lowered spindles are the heat since I don't lose any ride height in the suspension travel. Has anyone else done the same with an adjustable front end, with the spindles? I think Lummus may have put the adjusters on so low thinking that I wasn't gonna run the spindles. Believe it or not, as it it sits, this is as high as it will sit with the Michelin X 135SR15 tires on it... Look out speedbumps!!! :-( |
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Stinde Samba Member
Joined: October 18, 2003 Posts: 81 Location: Europe
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
Does anyone have this kind of setup?Stock Link pin front , type-1 -65. 4.5" brms whit 29 ET and cb dropped spindles? And stock wide front and no other drop systems like sway a way adjusters?
What is widest tires what will fit inside fenders? Will 145/65 fit or even wider?
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krazkayaker Samba Member

Joined: December 29, 2003 Posts: 101 Location: Canada ( Winnipeg)
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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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OK so...I am temporarily trying to put in an old school select a drop beam in my 64. I got this thing way back and am planning on lowering the original beam with proper adjustors and narrow it a bit while I'm at it. While I save up the cash to get the parts and a good welder to do it for me I thought I would put this in to get her on the road.
However I bought this thing so far back I can't remember the order the nuts and spacers go on. Help!
Also wondering if that bottom nut should be tacked to the threaded rod. Would hate to lose it during a ride. It also seems that the lower horizontal bolt ( the 1' one) is threaded. I assume that all I do to adjust the ride height is turn the bottom nut?
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ScrapJunkie (O\U|U/O)

Joined: March 17, 2004 Posts: 3977 Location: Hutchinson, Kansas
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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hemifalcon wrote: |
[img]https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/295425.jpg
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The link above will take you to the picture gallery where my '62 Sedan is pictured. I have the CB spindles on it, and a 2" narrowed and adjustable front end form Ron Lummus on the front. This is pretty damn low. With a driver, passenger, interior, fuel in the tank, and all the other parts, it's gonna be really low. Really, I think it'll be lower than I want it. You can see by the perspective shots with the paint can, how low the front apron is. Hopefully, when I put the engine in, the weight transfer will affect the front height and bring it up a little bit. Otherwise, I may have to go back to a non-adjustable beam, the lowered spindles are the heat since I don't lose any ride height in the suspension travel. Has anyone else done the same with an adjustable front end, with the spindles? I think Lummus may have put the adjusters on so low thinking that I wasn't gonna run the spindles. Believe it or not, as it it sits, this is as high as it will sit with the Michelin X 135SR15 tires on it... Look out speedbumps!!!  |
That's not that low...sorry. _________________ (O\U|U/O) Top Vw (o\UU/o) |
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hemifalcon Samba Member

Joined: June 15, 2005 Posts: 1483 Location: Union Grove, WI
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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Germanpride, it's not that low? Don't be sorry, I'm just saying that it doesn't have any weight on the front end yet, and I could just barely roll a soda can under the front of it. That is as HIGH as the adjusters let me place it. IT's got the adjusters in and the CB spindles, and this is as high as a I get? It's lower than I think I want it. I guess it may also be hard to tell since I dont' have the front fenders or the bumpers on. Sure, there are lower ones that sit on the ground, but I want to drive mine without hitting the road on every bump!!! Oh well, looks like I Might be stuck with this!
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makinbakin Samba Member
Joined: July 24, 2004 Posts: 393 Location: Greensboro, NC
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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Germanpride wrote: |
No. Taking that screw out would be letting the torsion bars free, then all the weight of the car would be on the shocks...Yes, it would lower it, until the shocks bottom out, then you blow or break the shocks, then it turns into a nasty gooey mess on the road. |
sorry, but thats not true. there is a center block that holds the torsions, the center grub screw keeps the torsions from moving side to side.  _________________ OST KÜSTE |
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