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EverettB  Administrator

Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 71846 Location: Phoenix 602
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Empicollector Samba Member

Joined: March 02, 2002 Posts: 316 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 5:30 am Post subject: |
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To the best of my knowledge and research, 1965 was the first year of the Riviera camper. Though that's not to say people with earlier buses didn't come in and ask for a conversion. I had a '63 Riviera a few years ago. |
It`s possibility on your 63---Also the interior and windows could have been swapped out of another bus--your 63 had upper vents Remember a lot can happen in 40 years
The Riviera were created to move stock that was not selling on the lot and to help fill the void that was created by the fact of not being able to get enough Westy`s ----But I would bet that a few previously sold VW Buses found their way back to ASI |
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NorCalWeekender Samba Member

Joined: April 13, 2000 Posts: 6541 Location: East Bay, CA
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 7:12 am Post subject: |
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Geez, I never thought about that...plus it had jalousie style windows (even on the picture window) instead of sliders. _________________ 9th Owner of a 1971 Tintop Westy
"Eventually, we sold to a guy for $500 who towed it away to live in it in his parents' driveway. We didn't think it would ever avoid the junk heap on that day." -The 3rd Owner, 1995 |
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Jerry J Samba Member

Joined: June 12, 2004 Posts: 1257 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 11:41 am Post subject: |
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Does David Eccles cover the Riviera camper in his new book? _________________ Jerry
'58 Bug
'63 KGhia
'67 Squareback
'67 Standard Bus
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NorCalWeekender Samba Member

Joined: April 13, 2000 Posts: 6541 Location: East Bay, CA
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Does David Eccles cover the Riviera camper in his new book? |
Yes. I helped him assemble much of the information for early Rivieras. _________________ 9th Owner of a 1971 Tintop Westy
"Eventually, we sold to a guy for $500 who towed it away to live in it in his parents' driveway. We didn't think it would ever avoid the junk heap on that day." -The 3rd Owner, 1995 |
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Jerry J Samba Member

Joined: June 12, 2004 Posts: 1257 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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| NorCalRiviera wrote: |
| Jerry J wrote: |
| Does David Eccles cover the Riviera camper in his new book? |
Yes. I helped him assemble much of the information for early Rivieras. |
Thank you for that info. I went ahead and ordered the book. _________________ Jerry
'58 Bug
'63 KGhia
'67 Squareback
'67 Standard Bus
'60 Single cab |
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NorCalWeekender Samba Member

Joined: April 13, 2000 Posts: 6541 Location: East Bay, CA
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Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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Okay, I want my fellow Riviera owners to chime in on this. This is a nice Riviera, but in your honest opinions...has the price of Rivieras genuinely reached this level?
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=496951
Personally, I don't think so. I think many people see what the Westies are fetching and figure any old camper could get that much. _________________ 9th Owner of a 1971 Tintop Westy
"Eventually, we sold to a guy for $500 who towed it away to live in it in his parents' driveway. We didn't think it would ever avoid the junk heap on that day." -The 3rd Owner, 1995 |
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kombisutra Samba Member

Joined: October 02, 2003 Posts: 4127 Location: San Anselmo, 10 miles North Of San Francisco
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:29 am Post subject: |
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Agunner, Taylor is going on the Shasta Snow Trip with his 116, the dates are Feb 1st-3rd, you thinking about it???
Any other 116rs planning on hitting SST? Hit the thread in the Camping and Events section. |
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Nitty Samba Member

Joined: July 07, 2003 Posts: 488 Location: Farthest South
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WhitewallsJohnson Samba Member

Joined: October 21, 2005 Posts: 622
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 6:54 am Post subject: |
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| NorCalRiviera wrote: |
Okay, I want my fellow Riviera owners to chime in on this. This is a nice Riviera, but in your honest opinions...has the price of Rivieras genuinely reached this level?
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=496951
Personally, I don't think so. I think many people see what the Westies are fetching and figure any old camper could get that much. |
NorCal, i think this is a great bus and incredibly original. I think thats the key. People will pay more for a genuine survivor regardless of whether its a westy, riviera, kombi, panel, etc. I bet this seller is basing his figures on its condition and rarity as survivor as much as the fact its a riviera.
I dont think hes way off on the price but id say its a bit high, especially considering it needs brakes.
It says price reduced...Anyone know where the price started? _________________ Show your love for the Land of Kong:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=254661&highlight=
Kermit, the highroof westy:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=318687&highlight= |
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WhitewallsJohnson Samba Member

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NorCalWeekender Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:22 am Post subject: |
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Mine isn't a 116...Mine's a walk-thru. _________________ 9th Owner of a 1971 Tintop Westy
"Eventually, we sold to a guy for $500 who towed it away to live in it in his parents' driveway. We didn't think it would ever avoid the junk heap on that day." -The 3rd Owner, 1995 |
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arthurnugen Samba Member

Joined: January 11, 2005 Posts: 3082 Location: The PNW, where "going green" means rolling with moss.
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:37 am Post subject: |
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| NorCalRiviera wrote: |
Okay, I want my fellow Riviera owners to chime in on this. This is a nice Riviera, but in your honest opinions...has the price of Rivieras genuinely reached this level?
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=496951
Personally, I don't think so. I think many people see what the Westies are fetching and figure any old camper could get that much. |
Wow, that's a nice Riviera. I hope it does sell for close to that. Respect for Rivieras is way overdue and hopefully that will be reflected in the purchase price.
Looks like the wires to the interior light are hanging down from looking at one of the interior pics.
Kombisutra, still thinking about Shasta.
-gunner _________________
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| Lawyers don't deserve buses. |
| zozo wrote: |
| Don't worry too much. You can always trust a lawyer. |
ALWAYS WEAR STEEL-TOE BOOTS IN THE GARAGE!
1965 Bus (Riviera camper)
1972 Bug 'vert
1967 Bug sunroof
1961 Ghia 'vert
1957 DKW 3=6: 3 cylinder 2 stroke! |
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arthurnugen Samba Member

Joined: January 11, 2005 Posts: 3082 Location: The PNW, where "going green" means rolling with moss.
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:40 am Post subject: |
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Thats a beautiful bus Nitty. |
x2! Nitty, post some pics on here! Looks really nice. _________________
| cdennisg wrote: |
| Lawyers don't deserve buses. |
| zozo wrote: |
| Don't worry too much. You can always trust a lawyer. |
ALWAYS WEAR STEEL-TOE BOOTS IN THE GARAGE!
1965 Bus (Riviera camper)
1972 Bug 'vert
1967 Bug sunroof
1961 Ghia 'vert
1957 DKW 3=6: 3 cylinder 2 stroke! |
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cdennisg Samba Member

Joined: November 02, 2004 Posts: 20967 Location: Sandpoint, ID
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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:38 am Post subject: |
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| I saw that 67 Riv in the classified section, too. It is very comparable to mine as far as condition and what it needs. My brakes work though and I have a bigger motor. I would say the price is high by a few grand anyway. If it were cleaned up and all the little things made right, it would maybe fetch the asking price. A nice bus for sure. |
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Empicollector Samba Member

Joined: March 02, 2002 Posts: 316 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:08 am Post subject: |
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| It`s complete Riviera---Most of the one`s for sale are missing a lot of the original fitting ---Try finding a Riviera spice rack, wall lamp or ice box for one --you very seldom find them--a Brake job is easy and all the parts are availible can be done in a week-end ---- It doesn`t need alot of body work--rust repair --engine or transmission. If some-one did some serious DETAILING on that bus ---wheels,hubcaps, front seat cover, paint bumpers , a little paint blending, detail engine, install a radio or block-off and new tile flooring ---All easy fixes-and not that expensive-- it would be a very nice bus---and could be worth it or pretty close |
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Anniehum Samba Member

Joined: November 23, 2003 Posts: 1197 Location: Kingston, Washington
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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:43 am Post subject: |
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I think that is even nicer than mine and I thought my 66' was the find of the decade. Nicely preserved. I hope he gets what he is asking for it too. I would do anything for that spice rack.
Cheers _________________ Ho'oponopono |
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Clara Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:04 am Post subject: |
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| NorCalRiviera wrote: |
Okay, I want my fellow Riviera owners to chime in on this. This is a nice Riviera, but in your honest opinions...has the price of Rivieras genuinely reached this level?
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=496951
Personally, I don't think so. I think many people see what the Westies are fetching and figure any old camper could get that much. |
I don't think so either. Maybe if the brakes were fixed etc. I think people asssume if it needs brakes, it will need lots of other things too.
I did see a VERY nice, low milage velvet green Riviera for sale at a show a few years ago... he wanted $13,500 for it. Since this was a few years ago when the prices of buses were lower, that was a BIG price for a camper, but it was in very nice condition, looked like it had been garaged all its life. No fade on the paint, no rust, no dents.
It did have the heavy duty air cleaner on it. I've noticed that on a few of these Rivis, MUCH more that usual. Must be cause the dealers were thinking of dirt road camping  _________________ The Obsolete Air-Cooled Documentation Project http://oacdp.org/ |
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Anniehum Samba Member

Joined: November 23, 2003 Posts: 1197 Location: Kingston, Washington
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:57 am Post subject: |
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| NorCalRiviera wrote: |
Okay, I want my fellow Riviera owners to chime in on this. This is a nice Riviera, but in your honest opinions...has the price of Rivieras genuinely reached this level?
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=496951
Personally, I don't think so. I think many people see what the Westies are fetching and figure any old camper could get that much. |
I don't think so either. Maybe if the brakes were fixed etc. I think people asssume if it needs brakes, it will need lots of other things too.
I did see a VERY nice, low milage velvet green Riviera for sale at a show a few years ago... he wanted $13,500 for it. Since this was a few years ago when the prices of buses were lower, that was a BIG price for a camper, but it was in very nice condition, looked like it had been garaged all its life. No fade on the paint, no rust, no dents.
It did have the heavy duty air cleaner on it. I've noticed that on a few of these Rivis, MUCH more that usual. Must be cause the dealers were thinking of dirt road camping  |
Mine has one.
Cheers _________________ Ho'oponopono |
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arthurnugen Samba Member

Joined: January 11, 2005 Posts: 3082 Location: The PNW, where "going green" means rolling with moss.
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Anniehum wrote: |
| Clara wrote: |
| NorCalRiviera wrote: |
Okay, I want my fellow Riviera owners to chime in on this. This is a nice Riviera, but in your honest opinions...has the price of Rivieras genuinely reached this level?
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=496951
Personally, I don't think so. I think many people see what the Westies are fetching and figure any old camper could get that much. |
I don't think so either. Maybe if the brakes were fixed etc. I think people asssume if it needs brakes, it will need lots of other things too.
I did see a VERY nice, low milage velvet green Riviera for sale at a show a few years ago... he wanted $13,500 for it. Since this was a few years ago when the prices of buses were lower, that was a BIG price for a camper, but it was in very nice condition, looked like it had been garaged all its life. No fade on the paint, no rust, no dents.
It did have the heavy duty air cleaner on it. I've noticed that on a few of these Rivis, MUCH more that usual. Must be cause the dealers were thinking of dirt road camping  |
Mine has one.
Cheers |
Can anyone confirm that Rivieras came with the heavy duty aircleaner as a standard item? Is there an m-code for it? Maybe it was part of the panel m-116 package? No upper vents, dirty conditions intended maybe? Can I ask more questions?  _________________
| cdennisg wrote: |
| Lawyers don't deserve buses. |
| zozo wrote: |
| Don't worry too much. You can always trust a lawyer. |
ALWAYS WEAR STEEL-TOE BOOTS IN THE GARAGE!
1965 Bus (Riviera camper)
1972 Bug 'vert
1967 Bug sunroof
1961 Ghia 'vert
1957 DKW 3=6: 3 cylinder 2 stroke! |
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