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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:02 pm    Post subject: Bus roof racks Reply with quote

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Bus roof rack info
(will be updated from time to time):

There are 4 major Bus roof rack styles.
HWE
BeKoWa
Westfalia
VWoA
VWAG

HWE racks were supplied by Volkswagen of America
BeKoWa is a German company
Westfalia racks were typically installed on Westfalia campers, as an accessory
VWoA racks are a different style, typically seen on Bay Window Buses but also fit Split Buses, although they may site very close or touch the roof line, depending on the year.

HWE and BeKoWa racks came in various sizes.

HWE
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47.2 x 49.1" = half length Weight: Approx. 28 lbs.
78.7 x 49.1" = 3/4 length
110.2 x 49.1" = full length

Accessories book
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/lit/60s_accessories_binder.php
These 2 pages list racks:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/lit/60s_accessories_binder/133.jpg
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/lit/60s_accessories_binder/134.jpg

Listing, in the order they appear in the book:
2000mm x 1250mm (78.7 x 49.1")
1200mm x 1250mm (47.2 x 49.1")
2800mm x 1250mm (110.2 x 49.1")

BeKoWa
Brochure:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/lit/50s_bekowa.php
Bus page:
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Note this brochure appears to be early/mid 1950s and other length BeKoWa racks were made available later (sizing information/literature needed)
Ad:
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Main difference between HWE and BeKoWa rack, seen here:
3/4 length HWE with curved ends
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3/4 length BeKoWa with right-angle bends
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Examples:
1/2 HWE racks
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3/4 HWE rack
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Full length HWE rack
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Short BeKoWa rack:
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Short BeKoWa rack, sunroof height:
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Sunroof rack on Bus, non-sunroof rack on top of sunroof rack
Note extra supports at corner on sunroof rack

Medium BeKoWa rack:
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Full length BeKoWa racks
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NOS Single Cab BeKoWa rack
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VWoA 1/2 rack
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VWoA 3/4 rack
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VWAG / VAG racks:
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BeKoWa rack clamps
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BeKoWa rack tag:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=268770
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HWE rack stamping
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Other racks are listed in this thread.

Other items of interest:
Westfalia police rack
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BeKoWa fire rack:
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HWE 1/ rack with bag
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Original post below:
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Hello everyone!

I am interested in getting a roof rack for my bus. I do not like the "westfalia" style racks, but the plain metal ones.

I understand they come in different styles and lengths. Can anyone post some pictures and info?

Did a search, but did not find the info I'm looking for.

thanks!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:07 pm    Post subject: racks Reply with quote

hello robot 909 Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

check out tom conners racks
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give me til next weekend.
I'm pulling all my Bekowa racks down for a "photo shoot"

Full length Bekowa
3/4 length Bekowa
1/2 length or Double Cab Bekowa (NOS)
Single Cab Bekowa (NOS)
Curved front Single Cab Bekowa (just picked up at OCTO)
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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here's mine. i'm no expert but i believe this is a later one '68+
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is mine...not sure of the brand or year. I'm getting ready to sell it, if your interested shoot me a PM.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's 3 of my racks that were readily available.

Curved Bekowa

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NOS Single Cab

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3/4 length rack

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The other ones I'll have to get down from the loft.
I do have an extra Double Cab or 1/2 rack that I'm selling....
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BeKoWa racks have clamps like these.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not to nitpick but based on the clamps i would say the above rack is a repop- the originals have similar clamps but are "curved" at the eop which is why they are often referred to as "horseshoe clamps"
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

velvetgreen wrote:
not to nitpick but based on the clamps i would say the above rack is a repop- the originals have similar clamps but are "curved" at the eop which is why they are often referred to as "horseshoe clamps"


I'm pretty sure the Bekowa clamps differ from the horseshoe clamps.
Those photos look normal from what I remember about Bekowa racks.

Who manufacturers the horseshoe style racks? I remember seeing logos stamped in he rack itself a while back....
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 8:48 pm    Post subject: bus racks Reply with quote

Can anyone tell me how wide (far apart side too side) the legs are at the point where they go in the gutter on a bus rack? I found an interesting rack and wonder if it will fit on a bus. Thanks
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These are the clamps on my rack.
Have no idea who made it but im missing a clamp.
Anyone have a extra one?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you look at "radrob's" photo of the clamp you will notice that the top of the clamp is angled not squared off. If you look at the pic of the clamp on the other wood slat "bekowa rack" posted earlier in this thread earlier you will see that the top of the clamp is squared off. I believe the "angled top" clamp is OG whereas the "squared off" style is a repop.

Some in Cali is repopping bekowa "horseshoe" clamps that fit on the bekowa racks. Sorry can't recall who they are but they advertise on TS from time to time. I bought a clamp from them and while they are not 100% copies (back threaded "female" part is slightly different and is imperial thread) - they are as close to OG as I have seen.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so does anyone make these clamps for sale besides trying to make them yourself???
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The guy selling the clamps was up here in Nor Cal, Gary ..... something. Last time I asked him about them he said, no more.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

robot,

Here's a link to a larger version of my avatar with a full length rack on top. Nothing special, but it holds lots of stuff and was cheap to buy locally.
http://thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=48829
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

velvetgreen wrote:
If you look at "radrob's" photo of the clamp you will notice that the top of the clamp is angled not squared off. If you look at the pic of the clamp on the other wood slat "bekowa rack" posted earlier in this thread earlier you will see that the top of the clamp is squared off. I believe the "angled top" clamp is OG whereas the "squared off" style is a repop.


Neither of those clamps are reproduction clamps. The radrob photo, is of a clamp for a roofrack that was available through VW dealers. The company that produced those racks also produced the folding ladders. Both the ladders and the clamps have a mark on them from the company that produced them.

The BeKoWa rack is similair to the VW rack, with a few exceptions. I believe most BeKoWa racks came with wood slats secured to the metal cross bars. And the clamps are slightly different, BeKoWa clamps have a built in pivot point, as can be seen in the photo.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr Warehouse, have you got a pic of that curved rack on the bus in your avatar, that I would like to see!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about this for a super-cool ski rack!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

velvetgreen wrote:
If you look at "radrob's" photo of the clamp you will notice that the top of the clamp is angled not squared off. If you look at the pic of the clamp on the other wood slat "bekowa rack" posted earlier in this thread earlier you will see that the top of the clamp is squared off. I believe the "angled top" clamp is OG whereas the "squared off" style is a repop.


The woodslat bekowa roof rack in the earlier photos is my rack. The clamps are original. This is an early rack dating from the mid 50's. Here is a photo from a 1955 vw Accessory cataloge, and you can see the squared off clamps. They made 2 styles then: 200 x 125 cm with wooden grid (the one I have) and the 120 x 125 cm for sunroof buses, (a little taller for clearance of the sliding roof)

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