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fotoroadie
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 Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:49 pm Post subject: Re: Bus roof racks |
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What color to paint VW roof rack ?
Silver or Gray ? What shade ? Shiny or dull ?
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They look best in dull grey galvanized, just like original. |
Thanks, what about the brackets ? These look so original but brown in color. ?
Are they supposed to be used as is ?
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cdennisg
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:00 pm Post subject: Re: Bus roof racks |
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Never seen them painted brown. Should be galvanized just like the rack. The lower inch or so should have a grey plastic coating like you have.
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fotoroadie
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| Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:45 am Post subject: Re: Bus roof racks |
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Here's a image from Samba gallery that suggests there are other brown versions. ?? Anybody else have an opinion before I paint these & possibly ruin their original-ness.
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cru62
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| Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:26 pm Post subject: Re: Bus roof racks |
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Are posting in the correct forum? I don't see a rack on that Fat Chick.
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Red Fau Veh
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| Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 2:26 pm Post subject: Re: Bus roof racks |
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I got all the parts to refurbish my HWE rack. 
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cdennisg
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| Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:49 pm Post subject: Re: Bus roof racks |
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| Are posting in the correct forum? I don't see a rack on that Fat Chick. |
I think he was trying to say they match the Brown of that Bay Window
As far as I know roof rack clamps were never brown or color-matched |
Same here, but if those racks were somehow made to match a Champange bus that would be pretty neat. Definitely need some proof on that theory, though.
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Red Fau Veh
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| Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:18 am Post subject: Re: Bus roof racks |
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Here is how I am making the legs for my rack. I sleeved the new metric tubing to the old tubing on the rack. I will weld them together and I am thinking about brazing the rest together like original.
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1973 Orange transporter stock type 4 with dual 40 Dellortos and Empi single quiet pack
1969 Adventurewagen blue whale Gene Berg 1776 built by Dave Kawell dual 36 DRLA's, Vintage Speed exhaust, Bosch 019 screamer
1961 Swivel Seat camper, L345 grey
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cru62
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| Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:29 am Post subject: Re: Bus roof racks |
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…….. I am thinking about brazing the rest together like original…...
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I remember the last time I suggested brazing a rack instead of welding. Geez, you woulda thought I was suggesting heresy. There is less heat stress to a brazed joint. And what there is is spread out on a larger area, unlike the HAZ on a welded joint which can cause a weak margin. Personally, the reason I like brazing is that you can control the flow of the material and there is WAAAAY less cleanup of the joint afterwards. I have brazed racks and ladders. I was never concerned about the racks. I had some about the ladders because I didn't want a rung to release under pressure while climbing on it. But, I never had a problem.
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cdennisg
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| Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:14 pm Post subject: Re: Bus roof racks |
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…….. I am thinking about brazing the rest together like original…...
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I remember the last time I suggested brazing a rack instead of welding. Geez, you woulda thought I was suggesting heresy. There is less heat stress to a brazed joint. And what there is is spread out on a larger area, unlike the HAZ on a welded joint which can cause a weak margin. Personally, the reason I like brazing is that you can control the flow of the material and there is WAAAAY less cleanup of the joint afterwards. I have brazed racks and ladders. I was never concerned about the racks. I had some about the ladders because I didn't want a rung to release under pressure while climbing on it. But, I never had a problem. |
I agree, brazing those joints would be fine. And they will look nice, too.
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Red Fau Veh
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| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:22 am Post subject: Re: Bus roof racks |
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I made the legs this weekend. I used a bigger hammer right after that first attempt at mashing the end of a leg. I made the middle legs after mounting the rack onto the roof because the middle was bent and sagging a little and needed to be adjusted to be level.
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1973 Orange transporter stock type 4 with dual 40 Dellortos and Empi single quiet pack
1969 Adventurewagen blue whale Gene Berg 1776 built by Dave Kawell dual 36 DRLA's, Vintage Speed exhaust, Bosch 019 screamer
1961 Swivel Seat camper, L345 grey
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CHASINGJR
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 5:11 am Post subject: Re: Bus roof racks |
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Update: Finished Rack
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Red Fau Veh
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| Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:43 pm Post subject: Re: Bus roof racks |
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I got the rack done today. Well it needs paint blending and sanding and I want to do something with the repro clamps. What color or finish do the original clamps have? It looks great on the bus, I love it!
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1973 Orange transporter stock type 4 with dual 40 Dellortos and Empi single quiet pack
1969 Adventurewagen blue whale Gene Berg 1776 built by Dave Kawell dual 36 DRLA's, Vintage Speed exhaust, Bosch 019 screamer
1961 Swivel Seat camper, L345 grey
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CamBiscuit
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| Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 4:43 am Post subject: Re: Bus roof racks |
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I got Chad - Ezycamper to send me out a kit. I used two less crossbars but otherwise stock and assembly was pretty easy.
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consvws
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| Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:06 pm Post subject: Re: Bus roof racks |
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| can anyone get me some measurements from a full length vwoa bus roofrack? Need to know just general length & width, and how high it sits off the roof so the original clamps will work right. Thanks in advance |
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bryanvw61
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| Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 3:29 pm Post subject: Re: Bus roof rack |
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Has anyone heard of an ORIS roof rack?? Would love to know what it fits before I disassemble the cross rails and and make it fit my bus.
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hitest
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| Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:58 pm Post subject: Re: Bus roof racks |
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The ORIS name pops up as an OEM supplier of M-B racks- so perhaps it has German roots? It sure looks the part. It certainly goes on a sedan or wagon body- with it's longitudinal arc. If I were dead set on putting it on a bus, I don't think I'd feel too guilty cutting those two center cross bars in the middle and inserting a rod and matched tubing to take up the space.
Nice rack!
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