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auslander
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 Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 11:53 am Post subject: Where do you mount your remote oil cooler |
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Im trying to get some info on what others have done, its the oil cooler that replaces the stock one. Its for a 69 fastback, looking for some ideas, is there advantages of smaller compared to the larger oilcoolers?
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Stevie Hall
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FASTBACKDON
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| Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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| hey sal thanks for asking this for me ha ha got it mounted and hidden in the drivers side airbox under the fender fit perfect |
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Poor Realist
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| Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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| hey sal thanks for asking this for me ha ha got it mounted and hidden in the drivers side airbox under the fender fit perfect |
You mean in the cold air intake that's used to cool the engine? |
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FASTBACKDON
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| yea but I have the decklid standoff keeps the air flowing and motor cooled |
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Poor Realist
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| Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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| yea but I have the decklid standoff keeps the air flowing and motor cooled |
I'm guessing this is a type 1 engine. You better make sure the compartment is sealed just like in a beetle. With the decklid standoffs, how do you expect to get enough flow through the fender air duct to make the cooler perform optimally?
Pictures wouldn't be a bad idea so we can make sure you aren't going to blow up your motor. |
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FASTBACKDON
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| Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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| no it is not a type 1 motor good ole type 3 and the deck lid standoffs work perfect ran them 20 years ago and never had a problem thanks for your concern |
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Poor Realist
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| Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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| no it is not a type 1 motor good ole type 3 and the deck lid standoffs work perfect ran them 20 years ago and never had a problem thanks for your concern |
I still don't understand how decklid standoffs by themselves could help a type 3 cool. |
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auslander
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Poor Realist
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| Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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| So, the decklid has been removed and the trunk is where the standoffs are. I hate to say it, but that's a real hackjob to get the carbs in. Shoulda gone FI. |
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auslander
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Its really not that bad, its basically cut that way for accesibility for tuning Dons got some big ass paws he needs all room he can get
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Air_Cooled_Nut
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| Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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| FASTBACKDON wrote: |
| yea but I have the decklid standoff keeps the air flowing and motor cooled |
Wrong. This isn't a Type I motor.
The T3 pulls its cooling air from the vents in the fenders. That air travels from the fenders to the space behind and above the rear bumper (an air plenum). The air then gets sucked by the pulley fan into the squirrel cage fan which blows the air out of the fan housing. The air then can go over and around the engine to cool it as well as thru the heat exchangers. Thus, it is this air from the fenders that is used to cool the engine -- all deck lid stand-offs would do is provide cooler air to the carbs. They have NOTHING to do with cooling the motor or keeping "the air flowing".
What you've done is allowed the engine cooling air to become pre-heated, in essence reducing the cooling effect of the air going over the engine.
This also leads me to wonder why a remote oil cooler was even necessary in the first place and I wonder if you even have the stock one still in use as well as any methods of properly regulating the oil temp so as to not over cool it.
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| Its really not that bad, its basically cut that way for accesibility for tuning Dons got some big ass paws he needs all room he can get |
It looks bad and I don't recommend it but I do understand why.
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FASTBACKDON
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| Thanks everyone for their concern as for going F.I. oh hell no factory F.I. sucked then and I am sure it didnt get better with age HA HA Sal you got that right about getting my hands in there just no room so hack job or not atleast i can have my carbs and tune them too aircooled the bellows still is connected there is no differance weather I put an oil cooler there or not it takes just a bit more room than that F.I. computer did If the car had not been converted when I bought it I would have given it to you |
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vwfye
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i run my external cooler w/fan under my batterybox under my truck under the rear of my car! perfect place for it... if you car mid-engined 
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| Thanks everyone for their concern as for going F.I. oh hell no factory F.I. sucked then and I am sure it didnt get better with age |
Gotta disagree with there, Don, the factory FI worked wonderfully if you were running a reasonably stock motor.... and if maintained, it still works today...
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FASTBACKDON
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| BLANK some people have better luck with things in life mine was not with F.I. |
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My '71 Fastback has all the original FI parts in place except for the fuel pump. That died one afternoon, 30 miles from home, and a friend of mine that is a mechanic showed up to help me with one from a Ford Ranger pickup. It is still on there 3 years later.
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Poor Realist
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| Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:27 am Post subject: |
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| Do you have a picture of where the cooler is mounted? |
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FASTBACKDON
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| Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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| no poor I didnt take one before I put the fender back on but I will take one tonite all I have to do is remove computer access panel |
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