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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:48 am    Post subject: Re: Home-made fuel pump rebuilding jig Reply with quote

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Just wanted to share my jig I made from some plastic I had laying around. It already had a hole centered in it so I just played off that. Set a pin in the middle at 13mm and tapped two 8x1.25mm studs in it.

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Clamps nicely in my hobby vice.


That Poster in the back round has my 57 Oval from the 1992 Kelly Park Show. Oh yeah nice tool also... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Home-made fuel pump rebuilding jig Reply with quote

Just to add to this thread for a 36hp pump at tdc the plunger is at the correct 35mm hieght so no tool needed. Also it put my ww diaphram at a relaxed fit so easy top install with it on the motor. It will be awhile before i can run it on my new build but anxious to see where my fuel pressure falls.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:55 am    Post subject: Re: Home-made fuel pump rebuilding jig Reply with quote

I just rebuilt an original pierburg fuel pump for my 1967 bug. Thanks to all for the info on the preload requirement and jig. I found it easy to assemble the fuel pump, leaving the upper housing screws loose enough allow the diaphragm to move. After setting the preload on the bench jig, which will pull the diaphragm into the lower housing, you can tighten the screws.
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 8:51 am    Post subject: Re: Home-made fuel pump rebuilding jig Reply with quote

This is how my fueltool look like. Took 5 minutes to make and have been used for many years.

M10 thread in the bakelite and in with a screw of right length.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Home-made fuel pump rebuilding jig Reply with quote

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Yeah, I usually put them together without a jig... getting ready to build a few and came across this thread. I thought I’d whip one up with what I had laying around and try it out. I took apart one pump and it’s missing a small reed/check valve and the small retainer plate/screw... so I gotta find those pieces before I can play.


If you need the reed valve and retainer, PM me. I have tons and can drop one in the mail.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Home-made fuel pump rebuilding jig Reply with quote

Yeah, I usually put them together without a jig... getting ready to build a few and came across this thread. I thought I’d whip one up with what I had laying around and try it out. I took apart one pump and it’s missing a small reed/check valve and the small retainer plate/screw... so I gotta find those pieces before I can play.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Home-made fuel pump rebuilding jig Reply with quote

^^ That's slick

I have an original jig and find I don't use it. I prefer my bench vise. I put a punch in it 13MM above, push the body down to pull the diaphragm into position and tighten the 6 screws. Much faster.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 1:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Home-made fuel pump rebuilding jig Reply with quote

Just wanted to share my jig I made from some plastic I had laying around. It already had a hole centered in it so I just played off that. Set a pin in the middle at 13mm and tapped two 8x1.25mm studs in it.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Home-made fuel pump rebuilding jig Reply with quote

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This^ looks like it was made from something else (that's how professional it looks if completely-from-scratch homemade).

What is it made from, if not completely homemade?


http://vwparts.aircooled.net/Fuel-Pump-Block-Off-Plate-Type-1-Engines-p/fuel-pump-block-off-cast.htm


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Home-made fuel pump rebuilding jig Reply with quote

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This^ looks like it was made from something else (that's how professional it looks if completely-from-scratch homemade).

What is it made from, if not completely homemade?


http://vwparts.aircooled.net/Fuel-Pump-Block-Off-Plate-Type-1-Engines-p/fuel-pump-block-off-cast.htm
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Home-made fuel pump rebuilding jig Reply with quote

This^ looks like it was made from something else (that's how professional it looks if completely-from-scratch homemade).

What is it made from, if not completely homemade?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Home-made fuel pump rebuilding jig Reply with quote

Here's my homemade pre-load fuel pump tool. I haven't tested the tool yet.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Home-made fuel pump rebuilding jig Reply with quote

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Preloading also helps line up the diaphragm with the bolt holes.


There's no reason not to have all the bolts installed, but not tightened all the way, before preloading.


I agree and slightly preloading the diaphragm allows the bolts to line up so much easier. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:21 am    Post subject: Re: Home-made fuel pump rebuilding jig Reply with quote

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Diaphragm also tends to tilt rather badly without the bolts in, just from the shape of the lever where it pulls on the pad at the bottom of the diaphragm rod.


I found that problem was greatly reduced with the new WW diaphragm compared to the other kits I was trying before. The WW diaphragm could easily be pushed pretty much upright and it stayed there by itself. The other kits were too tight and fought the spring, so they kept canting over.

The diaphragm spring didn't sit right on the collar because of that, even when I'd tried using the original spring that I took out (it had the correct diaphragm in it when I took it apart). The WW diaphragm just fitted. No fuss.

Thanks both for your advice above. I'm hoping to get a couple of hours to work on it over the weekend.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Home-made fuel pump rebuilding jig Reply with quote

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Preloading also helps line up the diaphragm with the bolt holes.


There's no reason not to have all the bolts installed, but not tightened all the way, before preloading. Trying to put the top on and bolts thru after
the diaphragm is pulled down is kinda the hard way to do it. Diaphragm also tends to tilt rather badly without the bolts in, just from the shape of the
lever where it pulls on the pad at the bottom of the diaphragm rod.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Home-made fuel pump rebuilding jig Reply with quote

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The pump diaphragm preload has nothing to do with the output pressure. It's a safety measure to ensure the diaphragm is not ruptured by being pulled
on too hard. A ruptured diaphragm could quickly turn your vehicle into a big ball of fire.


Preloading also helps line up the diaphragm with the bolt holes. It's pretty tough to line them up w/out pulling the diaphragm down into the lower body of the pump. It does also give a bit of play as well for the diaphragm.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:56 am    Post subject: Re: Home-made fuel pump rebuilding jig Reply with quote

whittle 14 mm piece of wood that fits the bottom of fuel pump,insert 14 mm wood chip, push pump down flush with flat surface, tighten screws. WA-la!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Home-made fuel pump rebuilding jig Reply with quote

The pump diaphragm preload has nothing to do with the output pressure. It's a safety measure to ensure the diaphragm is not ruptured by being pulled
on too hard. A ruptured diaphragm could quickly turn your vehicle into a big ball of fire.

The 3-5 psi output pressure given in the Bentley manuals is somewhat suspect, as many have reported no problems running with considerably less output pressure, on the same engines
with the same carbs.

As long as the pump volume output meets the specced 400 cc/min @ 3800-4000 rpm, which seems more than any stock engine would use, there should be no problem. If output
nevertheless seems insufficent, a thinner (or no) washer under the carb float valve could make things right.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:21 am    Post subject: Re: Home-made fuel pump rebuilding jig Reply with quote

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Pull the fuel pump. Rotate the engine so the fuel pump push rod is at its highest point. Measure how high it's sticking up above the fuel pump plastic stand and report back.

There's been many reports of different height bakelite/plastic fuel pump stands out there. The important measurement is how high the pushrod is sticking up above that stand. If it's not sticking up at least 13MM, you can carefully remove some of the material on the plastic stand to achieve this 13mm measurement.


Thanks. I forgot to write the measurement down when I installed the pump (fitted it in the week, but only just had time to fire it up). I think it was 12.7 @ TDC with one gasket. I'll pull the pump and check again


You can pull the pushrod pump stand and remove material off the top with some fine sandpaper. You're pretty close though. I make sure your fuel pump pressure gauge is accurate. I've tested the pressure on several of the WW rebuild kits and the lowest I got was 2.8PSI.

You could take your VW for a ride and go down the freeway and 60-65. If your carb was starving for fuel, you'd know it quickly. I doubt it would at 2psi. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:07 am    Post subject: Re: Home-made fuel pump rebuilding jig Reply with quote

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Pull the fuel pump. Rotate the engine so the fuel pump push rod is at its highest point. Measure how high it's sticking up above the fuel pump plastic stand and report back.

There's been many reports of different height bakelite/plastic fuel pump stands out there. The important measurement is how high the pushrod is sticking up above that stand. If it's not sticking up at least 13MM, you can carefully remove some of the material on the plastic stand to achieve this 13mm measurement.


Thanks. I forgot to write the measurement down when I installed the pump (fitted it in the week, but only just had time to fire it up). I think it was 12.7 @ TDC with one gasket. I'll pull the pump and check again
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