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Ollatron Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2005 Posts: 6 Location: The end of the earth, UK
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 3:02 am Post subject: Type 3 dropped spindles |
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So who apart from Airkewled sells dropped spindles for early type threes then?
I need a pair asap.
Thanks,
Ollie
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Mr. Bubblehead El Chupa Nibre
Joined: October 25, 2002 Posts: 2756 Location: 612 Wharf Avenue
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 6:56 am Post subject: |
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BerT3 make them. Try using _________________ OGST
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Ollatron Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2005 Posts: 6 Location: The end of the earth, UK
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 6:59 am Post subject: |
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Thanks, been talking to him also but he doesn't seem to want to give me a price. |
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Air_Cooled_Nut Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2004 Posts: 3040 Location: Portland, Oregon
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:35 am Post subject: |
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If you're looking for something less expensive, you ain't gonna find it unless someone has a pair they are selling used.
There are physical limitations as well as safety factors that are involved with a dropped spindle -- it's NOT simply a matter of cutting it off and rewelding it!
If you want your car lowered, do it the standard way. If you have to lower it the geometrically correct way plus with the cool factore then the standard rule applies: You gotta pay to play. _________________ Toby http://www.aircoolednut.com/
Did I mention that I'm an original Darksider?
'72 VW Squareback, 2007cc, GB 5-speed, rag top; '76 VW Riviera Penthouse Sundowner 2.0L; 2015 Audi S5 Cabby w/Stage II APR; '06 Ducati Sport Classic 1000; '14 Ducati Diavel Strada
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Ollatron Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2005 Posts: 6 Location: The end of the earth, UK
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:41 am Post subject: |
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Yeah thanks, but there's no need to patronise me, I know what I'm doing, I already run a juiced and slammed Notch, but I wanna go lower at the front.
And I'm not looking for a cheap way around it, I'm just looking for someone to actually give me a price.
Thanks.
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73notch Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2003 Posts: 667
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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you can go as low as you want pretty much lowering it the standard way.
but
airkewleds are 200
berts are welded, and require more work, so they will cost more than 200.
those are the only 2 i know of. _________________ SubyNotch.com is back up! |
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Notched Samba Member
Joined: January 19, 2003 Posts: 2365 Location: Pacific Northwest
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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Cut the bump stops. You can set it on the ground.
Harsh ride tho... _________________ Phillip Bradfield
Current stock: '57 Panel Bus, '63 Rat Notch, '64 Baja, '66 Variant, '67 Convertible Ghia, '68 Squareback, '69 Squareback, '69 Fastback
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Notched Samba Member
Joined: January 19, 2003 Posts: 2365 Location: Pacific Northwest
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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Ollatron wrote: |
Yeah thanks, but there's no need to patronise me, I know what I'm doing, I already run a juiced and slammed Notch, but I wanna go lower at the front. |
I don't think ACN was patronizing (yank spelling) you. Just giving you some info.
Juiced? What does this mean? Big motor? Nitrous? or is this some sort of Monster Garage Notch that actually makes juice? (I like orange.)
No one makes a drop spindle for a Type 3 commercially, yet (that I'm aware of) - Ber and Airkewld (soon) are the closest you can get.
The only other alternative that I know of is the Type 1 beam that KCW builds for a Type 3 - then you can run any number of dropped spindles for a Type 1. _________________ Phillip Bradfield
Current stock: '57 Panel Bus, '63 Rat Notch, '64 Baja, '66 Variant, '67 Convertible Ghia, '68 Squareback, '69 Squareback, '69 Fastback
Southern Oregon VW Club -- http://www.sovw.org
Oregon VW Forum -- http://www.oregonvw.org |
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Ollatron Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2005 Posts: 6 Location: The end of the earth, UK
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:11 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Philip, and apologies again to ACN, I was having a bad day yesterday...
I meant juiced as in hydraulic suspension. Problem I'm having is that by using 6inch rams and not having dropped brackets, on full drop it sits on the fully compressed rams, limiting how low it will go, so I need the dropped spindles to give me the extra drop.
I could get the car lower as it's lowered 3 splines at the front... but that means no juice!
Thanks for all your help guys, much appreciated.
Ollie |
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BerT3 Samba Member
Joined: August 18, 2002 Posts: 1569 Location: Antwerp
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 9:05 am Post subject: |
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Info from my brochure:
Specifications:
- 42mm drop ≈ 2” drop (more at the fenders)
- Bearing sizes 17.5 mm and 29 mm + caliper bolt spacing of 56 mm (disc brake only)
- CNC machined on a milling cutter
- Spring pinned matched
- Welded after heating to ensure good penetration *
- Bolted through for extra strength (1 M10 + 2 M12 bolts)
- Stock speedo cable can be used
- New speedo cable grommet included
- Installation manual included
* Note that because of the welded design these dropped spindles increase track 10mm to each side
** Note that because of the bolt in ball joints, which are bolted from the bottom, it is impossible to achieve an even bigger drop.
The ball joints would hit the rim itself
Options:
1 Anti-bump steer bushes installed
2 Predrilled new brake dust covers
3 Media blasted + metallised before purchase
Prices:
- Complete: € 450 + postage
- Complete with option 1: add € 50 + postage
- Complete with option 2: add € 50 + postage
- Complete with option 3: add € 50 + postage
- Exchange: distract € 100 for 2 complete sets !
- Deposit required: € 250
- Postage in relation to location – weight: 10 kg
THE FITTER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR TESTING AND ENSURING SAFETY |
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Notched Samba Member
Joined: January 19, 2003 Posts: 2365 Location: Pacific Northwest
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 9:55 am Post subject: |
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Ollatron wrote: |
Thanks Philip, and apologies again to ACN, I was having a bad day yesterday...
I meant juiced as in hydraulic suspension. <snip> Ollie |
No worries. Do you have any pics? Not too many Type 3's out there running hydaulics. _________________ Phillip Bradfield
Current stock: '57 Panel Bus, '63 Rat Notch, '64 Baja, '66 Variant, '67 Convertible Ghia, '68 Squareback, '69 Squareback, '69 Fastback
Southern Oregon VW Club -- http://www.sovw.org
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Ollatron Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2005 Posts: 6 Location: The end of the earth, UK
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:06 am Post subject: |
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These any good?
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type3nut64 Samba Member
Joined: September 25, 2000 Posts: 347 Location: Yucaipa Ca.
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:08 am Post subject: |
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Did you extend the shock towers or ram towers? Sounds like the your torsion bars might be limiting you from full travel? I pulled my bars out and machined them down so there are no splines and I have full travel. Well as much as the ball joints will allow.
I have a set spindle on order from airkewld because my new ball joints are holding me about a inch from the ground.
Good luck.
Paul Davis
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Air_Cooled_Nut Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2004 Posts: 3040 Location: Portland, Oregon
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:08 am Post subject: |
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Nice details, BerT! _________________ Toby http://www.aircoolednut.com/
Did I mention that I'm an original Darksider?
'72 VW Squareback, 2007cc, GB 5-speed, rag top; '76 VW Riviera Penthouse Sundowner 2.0L; 2015 Audi S5 Cabby w/Stage II APR; '06 Ducati Sport Classic 1000; '14 Ducati Diavel Strada
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Ollatron Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2005 Posts: 6 Location: The end of the earth, UK
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:21 am Post subject: |
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type3nut64 wrote: |
Did you extend the shock towers or ram towers? Sounds like the your torsion bars might be limiting you from full travel? I pulled my bars out and machined them down so there are no splines and I have full travel. Well as much as the ball joints will allow.
I have a set spindle on order from airkewld because my new ball joints are holding me about a inch from the ground.
Good luck.
Paul Davis
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Thanks Paul,
Torsion bars all seem fine, like I said I think it's the rams which are preventing me from going lower as they're fully compressed, but there's more travle available in the rest of the set up.
I could go with shorter rams as an answer but then it'd cut down the amount of travel up front on full lift.
Cheers,
Ollie |
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spoon Samba Penetrator
Joined: September 08, 2005 Posts: 1458 Location: Monterey, CA
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 10:39 am Post subject: |
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What's the word on the drop spindles? Ollatron, you still around?
Justin _________________ Pit Bull Myths, Busted!
http://www.badrap.org/monster-myths
EverettB wrote: |
Type 3 > Type 1 |
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spoon Samba Penetrator
Joined: September 08, 2005 Posts: 1458 Location: Monterey, CA
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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Nevermind, Pete ain't makin' 'em anymore. _________________ Pit Bull Myths, Busted!
http://www.badrap.org/monster-myths
EverettB wrote: |
Type 3 > Type 1 |
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blankmange Type 3 Darksider
Joined: July 17, 2004 Posts: 11498 Location: Bloßer Stahl-preapocalyptic MidCoast
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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spoon wrote: |
Nevermind, Pete ain't makin' 'em anymore. |
did Pete make any? - last I heard, he was waiting to get enough commitments to build some... _________________ póg mo thóin
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Airkewld Samba Member
Joined: November 14, 2003 Posts: 3152 Location: Goodyear, AZ USA
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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Just to clear up any confusion, I am going to call up each and every one of the people tomorrow who have placed a pre order with me regarding these spindles to make sure of a list of people who still want them. If by the end of tomorrow i do not have 50 preorders, i am scrapping the idea and refunding anybody who has pre paid. Tomorrow it will be one year from the original date when i started this list, and still i have yet to come up with 50 people who want to help out with these, pretty sad. But we will see tomorrow, i will post what i found out at 5:00pm. Talk to you then. _________________ TheSamba members-only discount - Samba24
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spoon Samba Penetrator
Joined: September 08, 2005 Posts: 1458 Location: Monterey, CA
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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Fuck dude. I wish I had a credit card number to give ya Pete. I only have a money order... so let's hope he gets to 50. In Sept. he had like 43 I think... _________________ Pit Bull Myths, Busted!
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Type 3 > Type 1 |
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