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Shane Samba Member

Joined: July 08, 2003 Posts: 399 Location: Pottsville, AR
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 9:20 am Post subject: Heart tail light position |
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Does anybody have the image posted sometime back about where to place heart tail lights? Yes, I did a number of searches and it didn't come up. Maybe someone will have better luck than I did.
Thanks,
Shane _________________ 49 Deluxe -Family cruiser
59 Ragtop - Judson supercharged
79 Vert - Fuel injected and staying that way
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Hebster52 Samba Member

Joined: March 14, 2003 Posts: 1850 Location: Finland, Jakobstad
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Shane Samba Member

Joined: July 08, 2003 Posts: 399 Location: Pottsville, AR
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 9:43 am Post subject: |
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Thanks a million. _________________ 49 Deluxe -Family cruiser
59 Ragtop - Judson supercharged
79 Vert - Fuel injected and staying that way
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Rome Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2004 Posts: 10228 Location: Pearl River, NY
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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I'm sure the above photo is the best reference. 12 years ago I also transferred such measurements from a beat-up original fender from my late '52 to a '67 rear fender. When you have the rear bumper on and level, the bottom edge of the large lens (not the heart lens on top) is just about even with the top of the bumper blade when you crouch down about 10" behind the car and sight the bumper. Same applies to the later "oval"/"snowflake" taillights- but for US cars, the bottom edge of the taillight lens was even with the top of the rear bumper overrider/towel bars. You often see otherwise nicely done ovals or early square-windows at VW meets where the taillights are way too high. |
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53 0val Samba Professor

Joined: July 03, 2003 Posts: 11396 Location: Irvine, CA
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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Rome wrote: |
I'm sure the above photo is the best reference. 12 years ago I also transferred such measurements from a beat-up original fender from my late '52 to a '67 rear fender. When you have the rear bumper on and level, the bottom edge of the large lens (not the heart lens on top) is just about even with the top of the bumper blade when you crouch down about 10" behind the car and sight the bumper. Same applies to the later "oval"/"snowflake" taillights- but for US cars, the bottom edge of the taillight lens was even with the top of the rear bumper overrider/towel bars. You often see otherwise nicely done ovals or early square-windows at VW meets where the taillights are way too high. |
That really bothers me. Especially when someone paid big bucks for a restoration and can't even get the heigth of the tailights correct.  _________________ "What a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away." Dobee, Dobee, Do |
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Shane Samba Member

Joined: July 08, 2003 Posts: 399 Location: Pottsville, AR
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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You hit the nail on the head. They PAID for a restoration instead of doing it themselves. I'd say most folks who shed some blood, sweat and tears on a resto would get something like that right. Could be wrong... but that's why I'm asking questions. This won't be a perfect resto, as this car was cut up pretty badly, but I'm going to do what I can to get things as right as I can. _________________ 49 Deluxe -Family cruiser
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eh0s Banned

Joined: June 25, 2003 Posts: 760 Location: Splitsville, AB, Population = 1
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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Are these measurements correct for regular 'split' window taillights as well? _________________ Cootra |
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DOODAH Samba Member
Joined: September 09, 2004 Posts: 27 Location: Finland
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 12:48 am Post subject: |
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Are these measurements correct for regular 'split' window taillights as well?
No this is place fot heart & egg tailligts only.
That picture was taken from my old 53 oval's orginal fender  |
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Hebster52 Samba Member

Joined: March 14, 2003 Posts: 1850 Location: Finland, Jakobstad
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:59 am Post subject: |
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DOODAH wrote: |
No this is place fot heart & egg tailligts only.
That picture was taken from my old 53 oval's orginal fender
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Yes, It's pretty fantastic that I remembered the picture... It's like over one year since it was first posted...
I'll keep my fingers crossed for getting your oval back on the street before May the 1st...  _________________ ~Kris~
"The Hebster52" my Hebmuller replica build
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The KidVRod project
The 356 Pre-A replica,SOLD
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Hebster52 Samba Member

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eh0s Banned

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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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Hebster52 wrote: |
eh0s wrote: |
Are these measurements correct for regular 'split' window taillights as well? |
I can make a similar picture for the split taillight position too next week unless Doodah is faster...  |
That would be MUCH appreciated, that's good info to have in one thread. There's alot of these fine points that seem to have 'gone missing' _________________ Cootra |
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Hebster52 Samba Member

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eh0s Banned

Joined: June 25, 2003 Posts: 760 Location: Splitsville, AB, Population = 1
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 11:43 am Post subject: |
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Cool!
Can I ask how far it is to the bottom of the fender? Or the bumper bracket hole like in the heart diagram?
(IE where do I start to reference those measurements from?)
jp _________________ Cootra |
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Hebster52 Samba Member

Joined: March 14, 2003 Posts: 1850 Location: Finland, Jakobstad
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:39 am Post subject: |
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You start from the upper corner of the edge against the rear apron in 90 degrees 150 mm out and 60mm down for the upper bolthole and another 40 mm's for the lower.
The big hole (16mm) is for the sealing rubber for the wiring. _________________ ~Kris~
"The Hebster52" my Hebmuller replica build
The 912ST
The KidVRod project
The 356 Pre-A replica,SOLD
The 1966 Kommanderwagen, SOLD
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Suboval Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 9:56 am Post subject: |
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Hebster52 wrote: |
You start from the upper corner 90 degrees from the edge against the rear apron. 150 mm out and 60mm down for the upper bolthole and another 40 mm's for the lower.
The big hole (16mm) is for the sealing rubber for the wiring. |
We need a point of reference for the starting (150 mm) point. The heart taillight uses the top of the bumper bracket and the bottom edge of the fender curve as the reference points. Is that what is pictured for the split diagram? |
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Hebster52 Samba Member

Joined: March 14, 2003 Posts: 1850 Location: Finland, Jakobstad
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Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 1:48 am Post subject: |
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I guess i've explained it a bit blurry. Yes, the upper left corner with the square is the reference point as you refer to as the bottom edge of the fender curve .
I rewrote the previous post:
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You start from the upper corner of the edge against the rear apron in 90 degrees 150 mm out and 60mm down for the upper bolthole and another 40 mm's for the lower. |
I hope you understand me know...  _________________ ~Kris~
"The Hebster52" my Hebmuller replica build
The 912ST
The KidVRod project
The 356 Pre-A replica,SOLD
The 1966 Kommanderwagen, SOLD |
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SVW-054 Samba Member

Joined: March 07, 2005 Posts: 58 Location: Adelaide, South Australia
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 7:37 am Post subject: Heart tail light holes |
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Just curious as to why there's 4 holes in the picture for the heart tail lights. I haven't got my hearts yet but from the pics ive seen the bracket only appears to have 2 mounting holes. Are the other 2 just for wiring to the lights???
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forgot I was also going to ask if any of you have the hole diameters too
thanks
Thanks heaps for posting that pic, I was wondering how I was going to get the position right, I agree with previous comments getting it right is everything.
My 54 had 60's tail lights on it when I got it - yuck. Its taken 6 months but I think I've finally tracked down some hearts locally, wont be getting them for a little while yet.
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Hebster52 Samba Member

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bwaz Samba Member

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On the small square image, are the measurements 50mm between the two holes for the rubber seal, 35mm from center to bottom hole, and 26mm center to top hole? (kind of hard to read when I enlarge it)
thanks
It's in Metric, but I think you can recalculate the measurements.
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Bruce Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2003 Posts: 17495 Location: Left coast, Canada
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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eh0s wrote: |
Can I ask how far it is to the bottom of the fender? |
Do not use the bottom of the fender as a reference. They are shaped differently and curve up quite differently.
Yes, I found this out the hard way. _________________
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