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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 10:46 am    Post subject: Re: I am luck to be alive Reply with quote

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1. Older and wiser I guess. Its more of a toy for me at this point in my life. I now drive it like an old lady and use 4 point belts. This is a must.

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luis, can you post a pic of your 4 point mounting points?
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i wonder if a sedan cage will fit a vert? Question


I don't see why not. From door handles or so down, they're the same, aren't they?

- Scott


there are some differences in the floor pan, heater channel area and door openings. also i wonder about clearence with the top up.
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i wonder if a sedan cage will fit a vert? Question


I don't see why not. From door handles or so down, they're the same, aren't they?

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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds like the lesson to be learned here is HEAVY METAL RULES!
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rear ended a Honda suv in a 70 bug at about 35mph. Brakes went out completely! Really f'd up my fender....put a small scratch on her suv. Damn Hondas!
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you forget to break? Beauty kills I guess...
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got rear ended this morning on my way to work. I was at a red light... stopped and I look in my rearview mirror and I'm wondering why the tank isn't stopping then boom! I thought my car was destroyed because my car flew forward but it held really strong just my decklid was destroyed. so I pull over and she follows me in her tank of an SUV and she says " I'm so sorry I was looking at your bug because I love the color And I forgot to brake" ( I don't have insurance It got cancelled a week ago for a late payment) so I say to her I will not report you just give me 200 bucks she agrees and I walk away with my pride hurt and 200.00 in the pocket. Twisted Evil Now I search for a 68 decklid.... shame cuz mine was shaved and real shiny black..... what a lame ass lady. Mad
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya know, another issue that came to mind on this subject is that I would imagine that the rust we all have to battle in vintage cars would also affect the structural integrity of the cars under impact. I imagine that they would have held up better in 1970 crash than they would now.
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rolled a 65 bug at 75 mph, no seat belts, and walked away from it with a very sore black and blue shoulder. The car was totaled but pretty much kept it's original shape. My brother in law was t-boned on the passenger side. The other driver was only doing about 25 mph and that car ended up over 1/2 way into the passenger side of the bug before it stopped. He walked away from that. I hope I never get t-boned in a bug after seeing the damage it did!
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that seat latch isnt that big of a deal i dont think, because when i crashed my 65 (not equiped with those latches) the seat backs didnt make that much of a difference. rather, it was my own momentum that drove me into the steering wheel. 3-point seatbelts is a very wise choice though.
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My beetle currently has some horrible seats from an '85 Camaro. These have only lap belts and the seats have no seat back latch on them, so they will launch you right into the windshield!!! Shocked So I went out and got a pair of high-back '68 seats (fully functional with seat back latches) which are now sitting patiently in my livingroom, waiting for the car to return from the shop. Those go in ASAP! The shop is also looking into 3-point shoulder strap seat belts for me. It doesn't look like the car has been equipped with them before, so it is another item I want to add on before the car comes home.
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canni wrote:
Know a girl driving a bug who got smashed (kid driving a stolen car and chroming) she got out with a fractured pelvis and other cuts..


Yeah, this driver had a fractured pelvis, buch of fractured ribs, lots of metal to replace parts and a giant scar up his chest.

An old co-worker got t-boned by a chevy truck going full speed on the freeway when he turned on a red light (color blind and at night). Lost his wife and has been in and out of a coma since September. No belts (although he did just buy some that day). The only one that came out decent was his 2yr old in the childs seat in the rear. The only belts in the car were on that kid. Guy doesn't even know his wife died....kinda sad.

Makes you rethink your priorities, huh?
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Claire wrote:
This place seems to have pretty decent pricing on roll cages and they say theirs fit the vintage bugs...
http://autoweldchassis.com/rbc.ivnu


thanks claire, good info!
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This place seems to have pretty decent pricing on roll cages and they say theirs fit the vintage bugs...
http://autoweldchassis.com/rbc.ivnu
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got t-boned in my 1970 baja. I wasn't wearing a seat belt and I flew out the passenger window after the bug did a couple of 360's. I don't remember anything about it but I spent a few days in the hospital and left a cool stain on the sidewalk. Check out the photos in the offroad forum under "wear your seatbelts". I am not sure how to put the picture here. There is also a build up of my new one in there. Don't know why but I had to get another one. Even if your are doing everything you can to be a safe driver you can be in an accident so wear your seatbelts.
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Towel Rail"]While a roll cage isn't "stock", all you're doing is putting a couple bolt holes in your floorpan and maybe on the firewall too. No big deal to me, and a very smart mod to make. You can always undo it later.

My Thing is getting a roll cage, and any future convertibles I own will too. Smile

- Scott

i wonder if a sedan cage will fit a vert? Question
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While a roll cage isn't "stock", all you're doing is putting a couple bolt holes in your floorpan and maybe on the firewall too. No big deal to me, and a very smart mod to make. You can always undo it later.

My Thing is getting a roll cage, and any future convertibles I own will too. Smile

- Scott

P.S. With all this talk of accidents, maybe it's true that the only VWs left in 30 years will be the trailer queens! Shocked
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rolled my 73 std 3 times doing 75 on a 25 mph S turn. Had 2 other peeps in the car w/o seatbelts on. THe car came to a rest on it's side. We all came out unscathed.
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah that got me to thinking too... a cage doesn't sound like a half bad idea since my car isn't stock anyway.
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lonslo61 wrote:
Mattimus wrote:
25 MPH side impact. Driver was thrown out passenger door (had his belt on before it ripped) Was in ICU for three weeks. He still can't walk straight to save his life. That is why I am getting a full NHRA legal cage in my daily driver 61.

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Damn........25mph!!!!


i love your idea about a cage! I WANT ONE NOW!
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