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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Me and my RV, Vanagon, Westy Plumbing With pictures!!! Reply with quote

The only way i see to cut the power manually to the pump that is convenient is to either splice the yellow "loop" cable on the FWB panel end or add an extra loop somewhere near the faucet connector and install a city/tank toggle switch. It appears that perhaps installing a relay inline with the water pump connector next to the water tank (picture 1), splitting the yellow wire to power both the pump and the relay, and connecting the relay's ground wire through the lowest water level lug (white wire/picture 1) to automatically cut off +12V to the the pump could then simulate the auto-switch bentley claims we have. this should be simple enough for anyone to implement. One could also run the pump's ground through the tank's lowest level lug, but not sure how safe and reliable that would be. has anyone done that or is there a kit available?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Me and my RV, Vanagon, Westy Plumbing With pictures!!! Reply with quote

I am pretty sure that only the very early panels cut off the pump, and maybe even only the ones with the pump under the sink and not in the tank: the ones without a fridge light on the bottom left. Like you, I don't see how that could work on the new ones.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Me and my RV, Vanagon, Westy Plumbing With pictures!!! Reply with quote

i recently became an owner of mostly renovated 83 aircooled westy and am trying to finish the job. there are a few minor details that needed attention and im in the process of re-engineering the dashboard as well as making the fridge/water/battery panel fully functional. it turns out the all that was needed to repair the panel LEDs was cleaning the op-amps as through the years dust/dirt caused cross-shorts between the op-amp "feet" causing the low water as well as amber-red battery LEDs to glow regardless of battery/water level. if you have experienced strange behavior with the FWB panel i would recommend mechanical cleaning of the LM324Ns first.

anyway, i extensively referenced to the bentley and found a comment there that low level of water should cut the power to the pump to prevent it from running dry, however that is not happen in my camper. i replaced the broken delta with a shurflo and it does cause the pump to turn on regardless of the water level. its a submersible pump and has 4 connectors on the outside of the tank (1 black ground, white,yellow,green). all test fine and light up the equivalent LEDs on the panel, but no pump shut off takes place.

my panel has the green fridge-on LED and it appears that the battery level and the fridge light run off the op-amp on the right and the water level runs of the op-amp on the left. i dont see how the pump shut off once the water is low is supposed to work by looking at the bentley diagram.

any help would be greatly appreciated. all cabinet wiring appears original and not altered in any way. pictures attached.

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please correct me if im wrong, but looking at the picture above it appears that the black wire is ground. the white wire feeds from the pilot light indicator. green is the voltage from the water tank level sensors. orange wire is +12v and the yellow jumper wire feeds +12v directly to the pump yellow cable through the faucet switch completely bypassing the FWB panel circuitry. i dont see how the current/factory wiring can shut the pump when water low level is detected as the other cable at the pump (picture 1) is just black/ground.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got it working Very Happy Thanks for the reply!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pry the wires out of the plastic on the blue green side and put new connectors on the new wires
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am trying to replace my sink water pump. The old pump wires (blue and brown) met the other wires in a plastic box (photos on previous page). I can not get into this box. Do I simply splice the new wires to the old ones that enter the box, or is there a better solution?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:40 am    Post subject: water tank Reply with quote

Can the water tank be plugged where the water supply line goes out to the Delta Six?..What is used to plug it? Cheri and Trevor..do you have new tanks(or used) ones for sale?...Has anyone moved there tank?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Faucet blows fuse when I use freshwater tank but city wo Reply with quote

a00318070 wrote:
Hello, This information is all very helpful, but I've been searching around and cannot figure out what needs to be fixed on my sink. It worked 2 weeks ago when I bought the van but now it blows the fuse every time I turn the knob on the faucet. I'm not sure what is broke? Anyone have any ideas? Thanks a lot. By the way its a 1991 Vanagon GL Camper.


Consult your original topic: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=564482 . Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Faucet blows fuse when I use freshwater tank but city wo Reply with quote

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a00318070 wrote:
Hello, This information is all very helpful, but I've been searching around and cannot figure out what needs to be fixed on my sink. It worked 2 weeks ago when I bought the van but now it blows the fuse every time I turn the knob on the faucet. I'm not sure what is broke? Anyone have any ideas? Thanks a lot. By the way its a 1991 Vanagon GL Camper.


Sounds like your faucet is worn out. Replace it with an original model or upgrade to a shurflo!


My guess is the pump went bad.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Faucet blows fuse when I use freshwater tank but city wo Reply with quote

a00318070 wrote:
Hello, This information is all very helpful, but I've been searching around and cannot figure out what needs to be fixed on my sink. It worked 2 weeks ago when I bought the van but now it blows the fuse every time I turn the knob on the faucet. I'm not sure what is broke? Anyone have any ideas? Thanks a lot. By the way its a 1991 Vanagon GL Camper.


Sounds like your faucet is worn out. Replace it with an original model or upgrade to a shurflo!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:41 pm    Post subject: Faucet blows fuse when I use freshwater tank but city works Reply with quote

Hello, This information is all very helpful, but I've been searching around and cannot figure out what needs to be fixed on my sink. It worked 2 weeks ago when I bought the van but now it blows the fuse every time I turn the knob on the faucet. I'm not sure what is broke? Anyone have any ideas? Thanks a lot. By the way its a 1991 Vanagon GL Camper.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:05 am    Post subject: Re: Issue Reply with quote

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Anyone know of a link or forum that goes in depth on installing hook ups on a vanagon. Since I happen to buy one that was not a camper model. I am having to fix the damage from another and want to do it the right way. Much appreciated


We manufacture the OEM hook ups, please contact us for assistance...
We are working on an installation guide for folks, just not ready yet.
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Anyone know of a link or forum that goes in depth on installing hook ups on a vanagon. Since I happen to buy one that was not a camper model. I am having to fix the damage from another and want to do it the right way. Much appreciated
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Skylightguy and Kamz ~ my weekend project!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So if you pull the tank from inside so you can access the point of attachment at the tank itself, then you can pull the taped hoses through. Sounds easy!

Thanks Kamz!


Simply pull the shelf out of the right cabinet/bin (from up top) and there's the fill hose, in the same section as the electrical outlet wiring and such. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:05 pm    Post subject: Delta Six - original camper parts Reply with quote

tarandusVDub wrote:
On a related note, I accidentally ripped my ancient water supply hose to the onboard tank when I was replacing the outside receptacles. It looks like the cabinets would need to be pulled to replace that hose, no?

Anyone have a source for replacing the blue hose? I haven't been able to find it from the usual suppliers.


We can help you with any questions regarding your camper hook up parts. We've resurrected the original molds and have made several updates to them.

We also still supply the hose connection and P-Trap and drain connections...along with water level sensors etc

Contact us any time! We love hearing from Volks!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, and thanks for the link. I searched their site but didn't come up with that result.

So if you pull the tank from inside so you can access the point of attachment at the tank itself, then you can pull the taped hoses through. Sounds easy!

Thanks Kamz!
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tarandusVDub wrote:
It looks like the cabinets would need to be pulled to replace that hose, no?


Nope. Just tape it well to the old hose and pull it through. The clamp at the tank is a bit of a PITA, but no need to remove the cabinetry.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tarandusVDub wrote:
On a related note, I accidentally ripped my ancient water supply hose to the onboard tank when I was replacing the outside receptacles. It looks like the cabinets would need to be pulled to replace that hose, no?

Anyone have a source for replacing the blue hose? I haven't been able to find it from the usual suppliers.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or you could just fill the tank from inside at the top of the tank... it's what I do. Cool

Here is that blue flex hose.
http://www.gowesty.com/ec_view_details.php?id=20100&category_id=128&category_parent_id=

(PDX posted while I was editing my post to add the GoWesty link... Smile )
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