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67 Florida Deluxe
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 Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 6:56 am Post subject: Fuel filter location on a '67 bug |
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| I just had the engine in my '67 completely rebuilt by a very trusted and reputable shop. When I got it back I had a new part - one the car had never had before - a cheap plastic in-line fuel filter hovering just over the distributer cap and ignition wires. Now, I'm no rocket surgeon, but this seems like a dumb thing to do. One little drip and poof..."bug-b-cue"! While I recognize the benefits of having a fuel filter, my car had 150,400 miles on it (all but about 1,000 put on by the only other previous owner) at the time of its first rebuild and it never had an in-line fuel filter. Given this, I can't help but question if one is REALLY necessary? If so, I want to find a better location than perched over my distributor. Any suggestions about location and/or necessity? |
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67 Florida Deluxe
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Thanks for the link! I did a search before posting but I must have missed that one. I insisted on having the fuel pump rebuilt instead of the Brazilian replacement crap. My pump has the screen filter in it and I did not know that the tank had a filter, too until reading the comments on the link. I have a length of new braided line that can replace the one that was cut to put in that plastic thing, so that's what I'll do. Good suggesstion on relocating the filter and using a metal one in the link. I'll check into it. The special fire extinguisher is a really good idea, too!
It's kind of distressing to see all these great cars in the galleries and classifieds with that stupid plastic filter over the ignition wires. (they are called "ignition" wires for a reason!!)
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Alan Willis
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I second firing your idiot mechanic(he can't call himself a technician if he pulled that stunt) also you can find another used fuel pump and rebuild it yourself,they're really easy!
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67 Florida Deluxe
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| I got a rebuild kit from Wolfsburg West and it works beautifully! Just take the screws out of the pump and bada bing! I happened to find a used original style pump on ebay and purchased it just in case I needed it, but so far mine is performing great with the new seals and diaphragm from WW. I would recommend spending the $13.00 for the seal kit to anyone wanting to keep their bug "original"! |
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lenwood
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| Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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my fuel filter is safely under the front of my car under the gas tank. forget putting one in the engine compartment. especially the plastic type.
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bill may
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Blu67Bug
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I did the same thing with my '67. I bought a nice used fuel pump, and rebuilt it with the WW kit.
However, mine still seemed to leak a bit of fuel. I solved the problem by wrapping some plumbers teflon tape on the brass screws of the fuel filter cover. That did the trick, and now I have an original pump doing its thing just fine! 
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BUSBOSS
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| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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| my fuel filter is safely under the front of my car under the gas tank. forget putting one in the engine compartment. especially the plastic type. |
Anyone have a pic of a metal filter mounted in this location (front - under tank)?
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doc hopper
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| Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:11 am Post subject: Fuel Filter |
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The location of the fuel filter is just one of those hot button topics on Samba that bring out the opposing viewpoints of:
"You should never......"
answered equally emphatically by
"I have always....."
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It just kills me when I see a $15000 VW with a plastic 99 cent fuel filter in the engine compartment with no hose clamps either! 
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BUSBOSS
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| Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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| lenwood wrote: |
| my fuel filter is safely under the front of my car under the gas tank. forget putting one in the engine compartment. especially the plastic type. |
Anyone have a pic of a metal filter mounted in this location (front - under tank)? |
^BUMP^
Anyone?
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Helfen
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| Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:25 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel filter location on a '67 bug |
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| 67 Florida Deluxe wrote: |
| I just had the engine in my '67 completely rebuilt by a very trusted and reputable shop. When I got it back I had a new part - one the car had never had before - a cheap plastic in-line fuel filter hovering just over the distributer cap and ignition wires. Now, I'm no rocket surgeon, but this seems like a dumb thing to do. One little drip and poof..."bug-b-cue"! While I recognize the benefits of having a fuel filter, my car had 150,400 miles on it (all but about 1,000 put on by the only other previous owner) at the time of its first rebuild and it never had an in-line fuel filter. Given this, I can't help but question if one is REALLY necessary? If so, I want to find a better location than perched over my distributor. Any suggestions about location and/or necessity? |
Here is where your fuel filter is on a 67;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/bug67models/page30.jpg
Here is another place where the factory saw fit to install one;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/1_54bug/page42.jpg
Still another factory place;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/lit/60accessories/page3.jpg |
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Jon65
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| Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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| lenwood wrote: |
| my fuel filter is safely under the front of my car under the gas tank. forget putting one in the engine compartment. especially the plastic type. |
Anyone have a pic of a metal filter mounted in this location (front - under tank)? |
^BUMP^
Anyone? |
All I could find in the gallery was this one with a Summit filter installed.
(Photo by hemifalcon  ) |
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Culito
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This is obviously not what you asked for, but this is where I put mine:
(The fuel lines have since been re-routed)
I feel comfortable having it here, since it is a steel filter and it's rubber mounted.
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Helfen
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:28 am Post subject: |
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This is obviously not what you asked for, but this is where I put mine:
(The fuel lines have since been re-routed)
I feel comfortable having it here, since it is a steel filter and it's rubber mounted. |
Wow double fuel filters. Double clean. Not a bad idea! What size is that fuel hose? |
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BUSBOSS
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:45 am Post subject: |
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This is obviously not what you asked for, but this is where I put mine:
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Wow double fuel filters. Double clean. Not a bad idea! What size is that fuel hose? |
Helfen - With my aging eyes, I only see one filter. Are you looking at the coil? 
Anyone have a photo of a filter under the gas tank? I'm curious as to the spacing. Thanks!
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Jon65
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This is obviously not what you asked for, but this is where I put mine:
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Wow double fuel filters. Double clean. Not a bad idea! What size is that fuel hose? |
Helfen - With my aging eyes, I only see one filter. Are you looking at the coil? |
He is probably talking about the filter in the fuel pump.
Also, if you add the screen filter inside of the gas tank, then the total is 3 filters. |
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Helfen
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Culito wrote: |
This is obviously not what you asked for, but this is where I put mine:
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Wow double fuel filters. Double clean. Not a bad idea! What size is that fuel hose? |
Helfen - With my aging eyes, I only see one filter. Are you looking at the coil? |
He is probably talking about the filter in the fuel pump.
Also, if you add the screen filter inside of the gas tank, then the total is 3 filters. |
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BUSBOSS
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| Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Anyone have a photo of a filter under the gas tank? I'm curious as to the spacing. Thanks! |
Answered my own question. Here is a pic from my install today:
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