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ghiafreek
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 Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:07 pm Post subject: Horn button wiring? |
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Now how does this wire up again?
I have one wire coming up the steering column and I've connected that to the underside of the horn button with that little screw.
Where does that wire go and what else needs to be done?
Right now I have a a button on the dash that activates the horn.
Thanks for your help,
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3Bugs
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A lot depends on what year you are working on. This link spells it all out for every year.
http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/wired/wired_12_00/wired_12_00.htm
Hope this helps
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ghiafreek
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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EverettB 
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DINK
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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The wire just "fell out" of my horn button today. I swear. How does it fasten in there? Worked fine before. 
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60/15windows
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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If you look real close you will see a tiny grub screw that holds it in there.
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6D2
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mine works one time every once in a while... it will let out a short burst and thats it... no loose wires just wacky....
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campingbox
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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| 6D2 wrote: |
| mine works one time every once in a while... it will let out a short burst and thats it... no loose wires just wacky.... |
Grease the connections with dielectric grease and grease where the horn push grounds out against the steering wheel. Make sure there ain't too much dirt inside the horn push. |
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dstefun
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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| 6D2 wrote: |
| mine works one time every once in a while... it will let out a short burst and thats it... no loose wires just wacky.... |
Sounds like the vibrator in the horn itself is getting stuck. Take the horn apart and clean it up. Easy to do and it will probably work for another 40 years.  |
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NorCalWeekender
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Where does the actual hot wire for the horn come down from? I think mine came apart some time ago and I'd like to get it working again. And yes, I know I can run a hot wire down from just about anywhere, I'm just wondering about the "factory" answer. 
-Taylor
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pyrOman
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| Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 6:48 am Post subject: |
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| dstefun wrote: |
| 6D2 wrote: |
| mine works one time every once in a while... it will let out a short burst and thats it... no loose wires just wacky.... |
Sounds like the vibrator in the horn itself is getting stuck. Take the horn apart and clean it up. Easy to do and it will probably work for another 40 years. |
True that! Unless it is one of them sealed newer units. I got me an old, bolted together horn for $5, ages ago. Didn't work, took it apart, cleaned up the contact points, and it's been working since! 
| NorCalRiviera wrote: |
Where does the actual hot wire for the horn come down from? I think mine came apart some time ago and I'd like to get it working again. And yes, I know I can run a hot wire down from just about anywhere, I'm just wondering about the "factory" answer.
-Taylor |
Check your proper wiring diagram, available from type2.com(?), to see the color code of the wire that comes off the loom. As EB points out, that would be the "live" wire, with the "grounding" wire completing the loop at the horn button.
BTW, this wire comes down there along with the brake light sending unit ones. 
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6D2
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| dstefun wrote: |
| 6D2 wrote: |
| mine works one time every once in a while... it will let out a short burst and thats it... no loose wires just wacky.... |
Sounds like the vibrator in the horn itself is getting stuck. Take the horn apart and clean it up. Easy to do and it will probably work for another 40 years. |
I'll pull it off tonight if it is not raining. and try and clean it out... it would be nice to have working. I have everything else working as of right now... thanks for the tip..
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timmaah
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| Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:11 am Post subject: |
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| 6D2 wrote: |
| dstefun wrote: |
| 6D2 wrote: |
| mine works one time every once in a while... it will let out a short burst and thats it... no loose wires just wacky.... |
Sounds like the vibrator in the horn itself is getting stuck. Take the horn apart and clean it up. Easy to do and it will probably work for another 40 years. |
I'll pull it off tonight if it is not raining. and try and clean it out... it would be nice to have working. I have everything else working as of right now... thanks for the tip.. |
and something i learned when trying to get mine to work... it has to be sitting sideways... not laying flat down to work... atleast mine did... it drove me made trying to figure what was wrong and the second i turned it on its side.. it started going off like mad... |
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dstefun
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Check your proper wiring diagram, available from type2.com(?) |
Type2.com does provide a link to the vintagebus.com diagrams, but wiring diagrams are also available right here on theSamba... thanks Everett!
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/wiringt2.php
and direct from vintagebus.com .... thanks Thom!
http://www.vintagebus.com/wiring/index.html
In Taylor's case (and for all splits 62 & later), the horn wire is a 1.0 mm2 (#16) black/yellow wire off the bottom of the #8 fuse. 56-61 bus horns connect to the bottom of the #1 fuse. |
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pyrOman
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| Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 6:24 am Post subject: |
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| pyrOman wrote: |
Check your proper wiring diagram, available from type2.com(?) |
Type2.com does provide a link to the vintagebus.com diagrams, but wiring diagrams are also available right here on theSamba... thanks Everett!
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/wiringt2.php
and direct from vintagebus.com .... thanks Thom!
http://www.vintagebus.com/wiring/index.html
In Taylor's case (and for all splits 62 & later), the horn wire is a 1.0 mm2 (#16) black/yellow wire off the bottom of the #8 fuse. 56-61 bus horns connect to the bottom of the #1 fuse. |
Thanks dstefun! With all that homework done, these guys should be "horning" soon! 
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6D2
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ok pulled the horn tonight and took it apart... everything is clean and I think I put it back together correctly. I hear the contacts close when I push the hornbutton but it just makes a sound like I am dropping marbels in a tin can... maybe I reversed something when I took it apart? I saw an adjustment screw on the back that touches a bent peice of metal coming off the 12v side. any help would be great thanks... is there a tutorial on rebuilding or fixing a horn?
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6D2
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I took the horn apart again.. made sure everything was tight and dry... still all I get is the cluck when I hit the button. I know how the horn wires up... but how does it make the noise? what part causes the noise itself? Im sure it is but is it possible for the hore to just be plan old burned up? thanks again
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Major Woody
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Pulled the steering box out of the 67 today to clean it and noticed that the insulation is cracked on the horn wire where it exits the box. I'd like to replace that wire and I don't have access to my Bentley as it is in the bus, and the bus is up on a lift at my friend's house. I haven't taken the box apart and I don't want to only has 58k on it and is nice and tight--just clean, paint, adjust, re-lube and replace the wire. What is involved in replacing the horn wire?
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Kelly
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| Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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is the old wire still in the steeringbox?
either way, you just run a wire through the steeringbox up to the steeringwheel. If the old wire is still in the shaft, splice the new wire to the old and pull the new wire up through the shaft, then cut the splice off. Another way is to use .32 safety wire (or similar) and run it down the shaft and attach the wire to the wire and pull it up through the shaft. No need to take the box apart.
easy money.
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