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crofty Judas of the North
Joined: August 09, 2000 Posts: 19670 Location: Land of Whine and Phonies
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 10:23 am Post subject: Door pocket rivets? |
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Is there a source for them? Yes, I searched the threads but found nothing.. _________________ Your Vanagon sucks, Stop waving at me.
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campingbox Samba Member
Joined: November 14, 2000 Posts: 10192 Location: Petaluma, CA
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 10:28 am Post subject: |
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Hey Sean-
Email Clara. I installed pockets in the '58 panel last month.
Greg
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Andrew Samba Member
Joined: October 27, 2000 Posts: 5865 Location: Who in the what now?
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 10:30 am Post subject: Re: Dood pocket rivits? |
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crofty wrote: |
Is there a source for them? Yes, I searched the threads but found nothing.. |
When you did the search, let's just hope that you didn't search "Dood pocket rivits"... _________________ -Andrew |
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davebuckholts Samba Member
Joined: February 06, 2004 Posts: 2173 Location: South GA
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DaveM Mad Samba Scientist
Joined: June 11, 2002 Posts: 3010 Location: Dry side of Oregon
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 10:40 am Post subject: |
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I know where a few NOS ones are....
(it's the brass colored one, middle right.
... sorry, I only have one and it's NFS at any price. _________________ Sounding like a broken record as to why You should be measuring protein during harvest in order to better your agronomic practices. |
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crofty Judas of the North
Joined: August 09, 2000 Posts: 19670 Location: Land of Whine and Phonies
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 11:03 am Post subject: |
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DaveM wrote: |
I know where a few NOS ones are....
(it's the brass colored one, middle right.
... sorry, I only have one and it's NFS at any price. |
Thanks. Maybe I should post a few pics of my splash pan inner fender supports ... _________________ Your Vanagon sucks, Stop waving at me.
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I slept on crofty's tent once. I passed out drunk from two bottles of Everett's brother's wine. |
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DaveM Mad Samba Scientist
Joined: June 11, 2002 Posts: 3010 Location: Dry side of Oregon
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 11:12 am Post subject: |
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crofty wrote: |
Thanks. Maybe I should post a few pics of my splash pan inner fender supports ... |
You have some of those too?
The problem with the rivets that I know about, there are very few, not enough to do one pocket. I got the one for a reference.
I've also considered removing and re-working used ones. I think they could be reused with patience. _________________ Sounding like a broken record as to why You should be measuring protein during harvest in order to better your agronomic practices. |
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Lind Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2000 Posts: 9905 Location: idaho
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 11:24 am Post subject: |
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DaveM wrote: |
crofty wrote: |
Thanks. Maybe I should post a few pics of my splash pan inner fender supports ... |
You have some of those too?
The problem with the rivets that I know about, there are very few, not enough to do one pocket. I got the one for a reference.
I've also considered removing and re-working used ones. I think they could be reused with patience. |
didn't I have a whole drawer full of those rivits? _________________ .
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Idaho VW license plate frames or other dealership items.
VWoA literature and early dealership or distributor literature/pictures/information
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DaveM Mad Samba Scientist
Joined: June 11, 2002 Posts: 3010 Location: Dry side of Oregon
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 11:39 am Post subject: |
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I don't remember a whole drawer full.... maybe a few. and I only got 1 _________________ Sounding like a broken record as to why You should be measuring protein during harvest in order to better your agronomic practices. |
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campingbox Samba Member
Joined: November 14, 2000 Posts: 10192 Location: Petaluma, CA
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 11:48 am Post subject: |
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Hey Lind, put one aside for me...actually, put the whole drawer aside. I'd like to dig through there to see if I can find something useful.
I'll make it worth your while... |
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pyrOman Fire Master
Joined: July 21, 2003 Posts: 12400 Location: Over 2002 posts deleted!
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 11:52 am Post subject: |
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It's rivets! _________________ Some people are so busy being clever they don't have time enough to be wise. |
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Lind Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2000 Posts: 9905 Location: idaho
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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campingbox wrote: |
Hey Lind, put one aside for me...actually, put the whole drawer aside. I'd like to dig through there to see if I can find something useful.
I'll make it worth your while... |
will do. _________________ .
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VWoA literature and early dealership or distributor literature/pictures/information
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j.pickens Samba Member
Joined: December 03, 2002 Posts: 9787 Location: Exit 7, New Jersey
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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pyrOman wrote: |
It's rivets! |
It's pyreman! _________________ Founder and Chairman Emeritus, ECMSAS
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i wish more people would actually drive their vws rather than just talking about what they have in the garage. |
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j.pickens Samba Member
Joined: December 03, 2002 Posts: 9787 Location: Exit 7, New Jersey
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Does this page from McMaster Carr do anything for you guys?
Especially the copper and brass 1/8" shaft by 0.219" diameter head rivets?
http://www.mcmaster.com/ctlg/DisplCtlgPage.asp?Req...nWidth=591 _________________ Founder and Chairman Emeritus, ECMSAS
BBX BBXII and BBXXI Long Distance Award Winner
BeaterBarndoor wrote: |
i wish more people would actually drive their vws rather than just talking about what they have in the garage. |
Red Fau Veh wrote: |
If you've seen one sunroof swivel seat kombi, you've seen them all! |
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pyrOman Fire Master
Joined: July 21, 2003 Posts: 12400 Location: Over 2002 posts deleted!
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:08 am Post subject: |
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j.pickens wrote: |
pyrOman wrote: |
It's rivets! |
It's pyreman! |
_________________ Some people are so busy being clever they don't have time enough to be wise. |
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DaveM Mad Samba Scientist
Joined: June 11, 2002 Posts: 3010 Location: Dry side of Oregon
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:54 am Post subject: |
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Spurred on by Clara after she sent me a rivet that she was able to find at Tacoma Screw (or so I assume since it was in one of their bags), I went and measured a few examples that I have around of door pocket rivets.
The head diameter should be 7mm either in brass or steal. The rivets in my firebus are silver and I looked at about 6 or 7 door panels in my basement with pockets and all they had were brass... but all were 7mm head.
The rivet Clara sent me had an 8mm head and was copper. I'd say it would be close but to me the copper is way wrong. I'd also tend to under size the head than make it a little big.
The rivet that I thought was og/NOS that I got from Lind is way off as well... it has a 5mm head. (see what I get when I ASSuME)
The rivet that J.Pickens found in mcmaster carr would be too small as well with it's 5.6mm head. We'd need to find a rivet from M/C with a 0.275 head (which is 7mm).
The biggest problem is finding metric rivets. I searched all over the place for correct vent wing to latch rivets only to have some chap in the UK send me some NOS ones. My machinist friend said he could make them but would need to make a few hundred at a time to make it worth his while. The door pocket rivets would be more difficult since they need to be hollow (vent latch rivets are solid). Someone like Ronnie needs to do this since I really have no interest in being in the retail obscure vintage bus parts biz. _________________ Sounding like a broken record as to why You should be measuring protein during harvest in order to better your agronomic practices. |
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crofty Judas of the North
Joined: August 09, 2000 Posts: 19670 Location: Land of Whine and Phonies
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:14 am Post subject: |
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I found some round head rivits at a local OSH and used them. They worked out pretty well. A lot better than my attempt to cut the panels did, that's for sure.
But then again, with this truck I'm not caring so much about keeping it totally correct, as it's well used. As a matter of fact, I armor all'd the whole thing yesterday! _________________ Your Vanagon sucks, Stop waving at me.
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splitpile Samba's Worst Speller
Joined: May 03, 2000 Posts: 5927 Location: back to living where hell meets the suface
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:36 am Post subject: |
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DaveM wrote: |
Spurred on by Clara after she sent me a rivet that she was able to find at Tacoma Screw (or so I assume since it was in one of their bags), I went and measured a few examples that I have around of door pocket rivets.
The head diameter should be 7mm either in brass or steal. The rivets in my firebus are silver and I looked at about 6 or 7 door panels in my basement with pockets and all they had were brass... but all were 7mm head.
The rivet Clara sent me had an 8mm head and was copper. I'd say it would be close but to me the copper is way wrong. I'd also tend to under size the head than make it a little big.
The rivet that I thought was og/NOS that I got from Lind is way off as well... it has a 5mm head. (see what I get when I ASSuME)
The rivet that J.Pickens found in mcmaster carr would be too small as well with it's 5.6mm head. We'd need to find a rivet from M/C with a 0.275 head (which is 7mm).
The biggest problem is finding metric rivets. I searched all over the place for correct vent wing to latch rivets only to have some chap in the UK send me some NOS ones. My machinist friend said he could make them but would need to make a few hundred at a time to make it worth his while. The door pocket rivets would be more difficult since they need to be hollow (vent latch rivets are solid). Someone like Ronnie needs to do this since I really have no interest in being in the retail obscure vintage bus parts biz. |
I checked with metricscrewandtool.com and they have the rivets but only in 6m or 8 mm heads!! I could get some 8mm head ones and have the heads turned down to 7mm I guess _________________ Stocking distributor of "The Funky Green Panels"
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DaveM Mad Samba Scientist
Joined: June 11, 2002 Posts: 3010 Location: Dry side of Oregon
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:40 am Post subject: |
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Ronnie, that would be great. Just get them in brass or stainless (not copper). It's interesting that of all the door panels I have with pockets, only the ones in the firebus are silver, the rest brass.
... speaking of rivets, has anyone bought any of the WW vint latch to frame rivets? Are they close to og? _________________ Sounding like a broken record as to why You should be measuring protein during harvest in order to better your agronomic practices. |
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crofty Judas of the North
Joined: August 09, 2000 Posts: 19670 Location: Land of Whine and Phonies
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 9:08 am Post subject: |
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DaveM wrote: |
Ronnie, that would be great. Just get them in brass or stainless (not copper). It's interesting that of all the door panels I have with pockets, only the ones in the firebus are silver, the rest brass.
... speaking of rivets, has anyone bought any of the WW vint latch to frame rivets? Are they close to og? |
The rivets removed from my '60 were silver. _________________ Your Vanagon sucks, Stop waving at me.
HamburgerBrad wrote: |
I slept on crofty's tent once. I passed out drunk from two bottles of Everett's brother's wine. |
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