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DAM Volks 
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Thanks,
I was hoping I wasnt the only one with the issues of more than one cylinder. |
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gerg
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Location: Monroe, LA
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| Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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Initial reply from Ron at WW:
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Greg,
VW changed the case in 1965, as they added larger "webbing" to reinforce the case. You will need to grind the case slightly in this region in order to mount this in the late 40hp style case. If you are not comfortable with the modification, we can arrange to pick the items up from you and we will provide you with full credit.
Regards,
Ron
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Steve22
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| Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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grind the case or give 'em back.....not sure what exactly my response to that would be.
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gerg
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| Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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I am going to spend some time with our local VW resident expert this evening on some cam / crank gear issues I am having and I plan to take the pistons with me to see what he thinks too. Just looking for more opinions . . .clearancing the case would seem to be less work, certainly less precise than keeping 4 pistons both symetrical and weighted the same. I do have a pretty neat template for the pistons if I go that route though.
Reconsidering the Engle 100 cam also, with stock rockers - rather than stock cam with 1.25 rockers. For some reason most everyone frowns on the 100 cam & 1.25 rockers, since I am using 373 '65 singleport heads. Apparently not enough throat to feed the combo.
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glutamodo
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| Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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Well, as for me, like I said I'm just going to put my set on the shelf for which time I might need them in the future. And who knows, I might want to put them on an assembled short block or something where I might want to slap them on with no hassles. So I'll reshape the skirts.
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gerg
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| Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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Andy - I understand you concerns. We may wind up doing that - I have a few hours into getting my template as precise as possible, just entertaining all ideas. I'll follow up with what we do . . . and Ron replied to my second email:
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Greg,
I'm not sure exactly how much clearance is needed, however I was told by a mechanic that the clearance should be performed on the case webbing in the region of the #1 and #3 cylinders. I'm not sure exactly on the clearance measurement, sorry!!
Ron
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glutamodo
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I'm still curious as to how Mahle produced this repro kit. Generic 83mm blanks of some kind, modified for to fit general 40HP specs? What ever happened to the tooling that produced this kit???
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gerg
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You got me man - but I would bet that all the people that are having this problem are NOT all using '65 40 horse cases. Ron stated it was a 40 horse case change in '65 were the webbing got reinforced. What year is the case you pictured above? A '65 case should start with a 9, possibly (in some claims) high 8s also.
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DAM Volks
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| Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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Greg,
I dont think it was a 65 thing. My case number is 6768922, which is earlier than 65 I think.
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gerg
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Ya - that looks like maybe a '62 or '63 block . . don't have the chart in front of me to verify.
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glutamodo
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| Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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actually, that case I took the picture of, IS in fact a 1965 block. I don't think the other case I have down in the basement is also a 1965. I like the larger "D" shaped oil fill opening on 1965's better, so that's how I ended up with them.
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