Hello! Log in or Register   |  Help  |  Donate  |  Buy Shirts See all banner ads | Advertise on TheSamba.com  
TheSamba.com
 
Official "Link Pin" lowering topic
Page: Previous  1, 2, 3 ... , 35, 36, 37  Next
Jump to:
Forum Index -> Beetle - 1958-1967 Share: Facebook Twitter
Reply to topic
Print View
Quick sort: Show newest posts on top | Show oldest posts on top View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
VOLKSWAGNUT
Fastest VW Belt Changer


Joined: October 14, 2007
Posts: 11056
Location: Flippin' a Belt........ .... Off-n-On ... NC USA
VOLKSWAGNUT is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

racklo wrote:
It is a 67 body on a 73 chassis. ...... I was planning on picking up a used beam and welding the adjusters on but I'm not sure if the beams are universal.



You need a BALL JOINT Beam ( not Link Pin)

66 and newer.

applicable Ball Joint Beam link.. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=143095


.
_________________
aka Ken {o\!/o}
Its your vehicle- stop askin' for approval-do what YOU like for cryin' out loud
Better to roll em' how you want and wear em' out-than lettin' em' rot out
Its about the going not the showing
Rebuilt to drive not decorate
WANTED: Local Eatin' Joints, Triple D for TheSamba contributions here http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=570510
Search "VOLKSWAGNUT" on YouTube since you cant watch a "certain" BELT change video round here
Usually and often edited
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Facebook Gallery Classifieds Feedback
racklo
Samba Member


Joined: October 21, 2015
Posts: 19

racklo is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course I do. For some reason I thought I was posting in the Ball Joint forum. Are the ball joint beams interchangeable? I know now that this isn't the correct forum and I can post in the ball joint forum in need be.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
VOLKSWAGNUT
Fastest VW Belt Changer


Joined: October 14, 2007
Posts: 11056
Location: Flippin' a Belt........ .... Off-n-On ... NC USA
VOLKSWAGNUT is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

racklo wrote:
Are the ball joint beams interchangeable?


Main Beams.. Yes.. for Beetle and Ghia. (Type 1)

Attaching parts.. different.. but interchangeable..
(tie rods, knuckles/spindles, pitman arm, tie rods, drums, discs, etc)...



.
_________________
aka Ken {o\!/o}
Its your vehicle- stop askin' for approval-do what YOU like for cryin' out loud
Better to roll em' how you want and wear em' out-than lettin' em' rot out
Its about the going not the showing
Rebuilt to drive not decorate
WANTED: Local Eatin' Joints, Triple D for TheSamba contributions here http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=570510
Search "VOLKSWAGNUT" on YouTube since you cant watch a "certain" BELT change video round here
Usually and often edited
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Facebook Gallery Classifieds Feedback
racklo
Samba Member


Joined: October 21, 2015
Posts: 19

racklo is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Main Beams.. Yes.. for Beetle and Ghia. (Type 1)

thank you
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Dake
Samba Member


Joined: September 02, 2014
Posts: 481
Location: Georgia
Dake is offline 

PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are drop spindles better than a adjustable beam?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Thomas Lindemann
Samba Member


Joined: May 07, 2013
Posts: 111
Location: Gloucester, VA
Thomas Lindemann is offline 

PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dake wrote:
Are drop spindles better than a adjustable beam?


Yes and no. if you only want a small (2.5" drop) then yes, because it doesnt alter any suspension geometry. If you want lower and you want to do it right, then you will need an adjustable beam. IMHO the best route if you want lower than just drop spindles, then a combination of drop spindles and a beam will let you lower and wont effect geometry as mush as just trying to get low with a beam.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
EMPIImp69
Samba Member


Joined: April 17, 2006
Posts: 3374
Location: Dirty Jersey
EMPIImp69 is offline 

PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 8:26 am    Post subject: Re: Official "Link Pin" lowering topic Reply with quote

Can anyone tell me this looks like 1 outer click or more like 2 outer clicks? There's about 2.5"-3" clearance between the bumpstop, Thanks

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

_________________
1963 Ragtop Bug
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Jamlit
Samba Member


Joined: January 30, 2016
Posts: 107
Location: Nova Scotia Canada
Jamlit is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 7:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Official "Link Pin" lowering topic Reply with quote

If I want to run 165/45R15 tires on the front using 2.5 inch drop spindles and beam adjusters, what is the best measurement to narrow the beam while keeping the shocks. I do not want any rub on the tire.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
MMW
Samba Member


Joined: April 30, 2012
Posts: 846
Location: northern NJ
MMW is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 4:55 am    Post subject: Re: Official "Link Pin" lowering topic Reply with quote

EMPIImp69 - You really can't tell if it is one or two notches down because the lower portion is sitting on the lower stop. It needs to have the outer cap removed & then the spring plate slid outwards off the stop & left hanging free. Caution--Be careful when doing this as the spring plate is spring loaded. Once hanging free then you can measure the degrees of the plate & compare them to the stock measurement.

This link should explain it for you.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=576348&highlight=spring+plate+install
_________________
Mic
1959 356 coupe
Missing the original engine 72488
Update - third pc. found!
Now just need the case halves.
1965 fenderless beetle
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
slalombuggy
Samba Member


Joined: July 17, 2010
Posts: 9147
Location: Canada
slalombuggy is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:55 am    Post subject: Re: Official "Link Pin" lowering topic Reply with quote

Jamlit wrote:
If I want to run 165/45R15 tires on the front using 2.5 inch drop spindles and beam adjusters, what is the best measurement to narrow the beam while keeping the shocks. I do not want any rub on the tire.


What wheels are you using? Those tires are tiny, they won't rub on anything. I have them on the front of my 57 on Iron cross wheels, disk brakes and a skinny drag race front end. with really small wheel arches. I doubt you'll have to narrow your beam at all

brad
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Jamlit
Samba Member


Joined: January 30, 2016
Posts: 107
Location: Nova Scotia Canada
Jamlit is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 4:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Official "Link Pin" lowering topic Reply with quote

Cool thanks

Here is the front brake system I am thinking of using
http://www.jbugs.com/product/22-2925.html?Category_Code=1958-vw-bug-disc-brake-kits

And here is the wheel i am looking at so far
http://www.jbugs.com/product/9687-4.html?Category_Code=15-inch-polished-wide-5-lug-custom-vw-wheels

what tire size is best to run on a lowered suspension. I was to understand that this tire size would be best but originally was thinking of a stock size tire to add a little ride.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
slalombuggy
Samba Member


Joined: July 17, 2010
Posts: 9147
Location: Canada
slalombuggy is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 5:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Official "Link Pin" lowering topic Reply with quote

I just bought that same brake kit from CIP1 last week. If I were you that's where I would get it. By the time you pay 40% exchange on the dollar, shipping and taxes you'll be north of $700CDN CIP is selling them for about $550 shipped.

IF you are going to just drop it 2.5 inches you don't want that small of a tire. You'll have way to big of a gap in the fender. I would look at smart car tires. I hate 135/145s. They will lock up almost instantly if you have to panic stop

brad
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Jamlit
Samba Member


Joined: January 30, 2016
Posts: 107
Location: Nova Scotia Canada
Jamlit is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 5:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Official "Link Pin" lowering topic Reply with quote

Thanks for the tip on where to get the parts.

I am going to start with 2.5 inches but I am going to install adjusters as well so that I can get to where it looks and works the best.

Might bug you some when I get started.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
willydozier
Samba Member


Joined: June 04, 2006
Posts: 32
Location: PDX
willydozier is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 12:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Official "Link Pin" lowering topic Reply with quote

Stock 64 Beetle with newish KYB shocks. Had 2.5 drop spindles, k&l pins and bearings installed. Height ended up perfect (about 1.5" above the 17565R15's on 5.5 smoothies) however now there is something binding. Push the nose down and it stays down. Pull in up and it stays up. Anyone experience this? Solutions?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
MMW
Samba Member


Joined: April 30, 2012
Posts: 846
Location: northern NJ
MMW is offline 

PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 4:40 am    Post subject: Re: Official "Link Pin" lowering topic Reply with quote

willydozier wrote:
Stock 64 Beetle with newish KYB shocks. Had 2.5 drop spindles, k&l pins and bearings installed. Height ended up perfect (about 1.5" above the 17565R15's on 5.5 smoothies) however now there is something binding. Push the nose down and it stays down. Pull in up and it stays up. Anyone experience this? Solutions?


Have you disconnected the shocks & tried it? That will tell you if it's the shocks or not.

Link pins may be set to tight or may be incorrectly shimmed which can cause binding. Is the beam stock width or narrowed? I assume everything is greased properly?
_________________
Mic
1959 356 coupe
Missing the original engine 72488
Update - third pc. found!
Now just need the case halves.
1965 fenderless beetle
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
willydozier
Samba Member


Joined: June 04, 2006
Posts: 32
Location: PDX
willydozier is offline 

PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:36 am    Post subject: Re: Official "Link Pin" lowering topic Reply with quote

Thanks for your response, Stock beam, well lubed and yes, pulled the shocks and everything now moves freely. Weird. The KYB's only have about 2,000 miles on them. I'm going to try new KYB G shocks and if the problem persists I'll likely look for old school oil type units. I really don't want a "dropped" car. I just wanted to eliminate the typical mid 60's "nose in the air" stance. Thanks again.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
MMW
Samba Member


Joined: April 30, 2012
Posts: 846
Location: northern NJ
MMW is offline 

PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:22 am    Post subject: Re: Official "Link Pin" lowering topic Reply with quote

Oil type shocks work best on these cars. My opinion.
_________________
Mic
1959 356 coupe
Missing the original engine 72488
Update - third pc. found!
Now just need the case halves.
1965 fenderless beetle
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Gutierg2
Samba Member


Joined: October 27, 2016
Posts: 1
Location: Cypress ca
Gutierg2 is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 12:54 am    Post subject: Re: Official "Link Pin" lowering topic Reply with quote

I just lowered my 66 bug with drop spindles but want to lower it a little more without buying a adjustment stable front beam is there anything I can do to accomplish this?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
anthracitedub
Samba Member


Joined: June 20, 2007
Posts: 3241
Location: Michigan
anthracitedub is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 7:05 am    Post subject: Re: Official "Link Pin" lowering topic Reply with quote

There is no proper way to go a bit lower, rather then add the adjusters.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
bwaz
Samba Member


Joined: August 24, 2004
Posts: 1780

bwaz is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:59 am    Post subject: Re: Official "Link Pin" lowering topic Reply with quote

So I bought a stock width link pin beam with Avis style adjusters and 2" drop spindles. After installing it, and putting the adjuster to the heights position, I'm finding with 5" rims and 135 tires that I'm still getting some rubbing... somewhere. The top of the tires barely clear the opening of the fender curve and although I don't see any burn through on the paint, I assume with my weight in the car (165 lbs) it's enough to put it lower when turning. Have to still drop the rear one notch which I hope brings the nose up a bit. I think I'm at the max of the grub screws to the leaves in the opening of the adjusters. Other than another beam or adjuster removal/repositioning, can you pull the grub screws an drill new indents in another position to gain more range? I know it's the lazy way, but if I have to pull everything I'm going to miss a bunch of summer drive time.

Last edited by bwaz on Sun Jul 22, 2018 3:45 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topic    Forum Index -> Beetle - 1958-1967 All times are Mountain Standard Time/Pacific Daylight Savings Time
Page: Previous  1, 2, 3 ... , 35, 36, 37  Next
Jump to:
Page 36 of 37

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

About | Help! | Advertise | Donate | Premium Membership | Privacy/Terms of Use | Contact Us | Site Map
Copyright © 1996-2023, Everett Barnes. All Rights Reserved.
Not affiliated with or sponsored by Volkswagen of America | Forum powered by phpBB
Links to eBay or other vendor sites may be affiliate links where the site receives compensation.