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midmo81
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My PO left me one of those rips from not checking before latching. So I put a bandaid on it until time to replace. 
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| Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 4:39 pm Post subject: Re: Iron On Patches! |
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| kamzcab86 wrote: |
| ...even with the new tent, I drop the roof to half way and go to the back to tuck the tent in). |
That brings back memories. With our old tent my wife would pause just before finishing the close and I would walk around back and tuck in any tent hanging out. I would then rap twice on the poptop shell as the official signal to complete & latch. Always used a comb for the tuck-in (not my fingers) just in case things got confused.
The iron on patch is good, when we had to patch our old one I laid inside and she was outside and we pushed a needle back and forth thru a patch on each side. Crafty & neat but a lot more work than ironing. |
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msinabottle
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| Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 3:45 pm Post subject: Yes. |
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I've used both brands, actually, if not all of them on Winston's tent. I seem to recall the Dritz sticking somewhat more firmly. As I recall, I had the sleeve ironing board on the inside--because that was safer--and the iron and patch on the outside.
It worked and held! For other tears I used 'Tear Mender,' which is a latex glue and holds pretty well. If it doesn't, you use more of it, and it holds pretty well. If...
Relatively harmless stuff. Now I have a Sunbrella Tent. Not sure what I'll do if that goes South. Should put up a good fight, though.
Best!
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gl98115
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I've got the start of the tiniest hole ever in one spot. Thing about tiny holes is they grow and grow and grow so fast!
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For outdoor gear I use Seam Grip.
http://www.mcnett.com/Seam-Grip-Seam-Sealer-Outdoor-Repair-P133.aspx
Put duct tape on one side, dab on the seam grip, and remove duct tape after it dries.
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kamzcab86
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| Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 11:17 am Post subject: Re: Iron On Patches! |
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| tam_shops wrote: |
So, you only put the patch on the inside?
Ironing board on the other side, Genius! Thank you very much!
You recall the packaging? |
I used a small wood cutting board... easier to handle in a small space.
I used the iron-on patches too, but got them at Albertson's (if you can believe it); I think they were canvas or twill, can't recall which. I used one patch on both sides to seal the hole and to protect the tent from potential hinge pinching (ever since patching those holes, even with the new tent, I drop the roof to half way and go to the back to tuck the tent in).
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tam_shops
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msinabottle
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| Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 10:14 pm Post subject: Iron On Patches! |
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I went to a good fabric store, got tan iron-on patches, had someone hold a small sleeve ironing board on the inside of the tent while I ironed on the patch from the outside.
It stuck very nicely, closed the hole, and provided additional protection against the hinge-pinching that had worn the holes in the tent.
Best!
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tam_shops
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You talking about Wonder Under?
http://www.joann.com/pellon-wonder-under-paper-backed-fusible-web-17-w-x-2yds/prd35534/
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| The lady at the fabric store had some sort of backing material on a bolt that you could cut a huge patch fom. It was glue on both sides. Iron it, cut, and iron on the tent. |
What did you use to patch your hole with?
I've got the start of the tiniest hole ever in one spot. Thing about tiny holes is they grow and grow and grow so fast!
Given what I've read (and know) about glue, I won't be using any glue. Guess I could get a round upholstery needle and just sew it, but it's so tiny, I'd rather something smaller and less obvious.
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Bntbrl
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| Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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The lady at the fabric store had some sort of backing material on a bolt that you could cut a huge patch fom. It was glue on both sides. Iron it, cut, and iron on the tent.
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tam_shops
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| Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:03 pm Post subject: Re: Latch |
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Thanks! Copied and printed! Now to get it into my Westfalia book w/ vacation mechanics and other stuff I'll forget even though I've read it 18 times...
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I have a full checklist for putting to sea after camping:
VANAGON WESTFALIA PRE-DRIVING CHECKLIST
1. Rig rear bed to bench, secure all loose interior gear. Check upper berth for improperly stowed items from lower section. Make sure tent window(s) secured.
2. Secure all cabinet and interior doors. Restore seats to ‘driving’ positions. Close all exterior windows, check to make sure that they are securely latched.
3. Close and secure sink, stove, and refrigerator. Secure tables against rattling and shifting.
4. Lower tent without latching. Close and check skylight. Exit van.
5. Remove and secure all external gear, such as the gray water tank and hose. Check rear hatch and secure. Make sure tent canvas tucked under top.
6. Turn off Propane system unless running fridge. Check and remove external connections. Enter van and stow gear from exterior.
7. LATCH TENT, CHECK LATCH. LATCH SHOULD NOT PROTRUDE.
8. Lock all exterior doors. Check mirrors and clearances. Start Van. Hit road.
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As for patches, I like the Nylon self-adhesive ones by Gold Zack:
http://www.fabric-dreams.co.uk/Repair-Patches:::341_913.html
The package has an umbrella on it, there are different sizes (and shapes). I've had one of their patches on the canvas for our stroller for over 4 years, in a load baring section, with out problems...
There are other ones by Dritz that may be worth trying and easier to find there:
http://www.google.ca/imgres?um=1&hl=en&cli...&ty=35
And, still more by Bondex:
http://www.amazon.com/Jo-Ann-Fabric-Craft-Stores-045-903/dp/B001LXIEG2
As for the screen, if there are holes in it and the zippers comes out, why don't you take it and get some screen (can buy at our sewing store and/or hardware store), then bring it to a local seamstress and have her resew the original zipper onto a new piece of screen? If you find the right person, it's pretty cheap. I don't bother to hem my own pants b/c the lady charges me $10 and it takes me an hour by the time I do it beginning to end and clean up...
tam
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Bntbrl
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I'm heading to Ace now...
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msinabottle
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| Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:53 pm Post subject: Latch |
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| Ill try another friendly local fabric store. |
Forget that! Go to an Ace Hardware Store. They stock it. My big bottle congealed, so I've been buying the smaller ones since.
The roof popping up was a matter of the latch needing lubrication--the first time, I didn't use enough, and I didn't realize that if the pin sticks OUT, it's not latched. It's been great since, but the repair took it--I just had to do other repairs.
I have a full checklist for putting to sea after camping:
VANAGON WESTFALIA PRE-DRIVING CHECKLIST
1. Rig rear bed to bench, secure all loose interior gear. Check upper berth for improperly stowed items from lower section. Make sure tent window(s) secured.
2. Secure all cabinet and interior doors. Restore seats to ‘driving’ positions. Close all exterior windows, check to make sure that they are securely latched.
3. Close and secure sink, stove, and refrigerator. Secure tables against rattling and shifting.
4. Lower tent without latching. Close and check skylight. Exit van.
5. Remove and secure all external gear, such as the gray water tank and hose. Check rear hatch and secure. Make sure tent canvas tucked under top.
6. Turn off Propane system unless running fridge. Check and remove external connections. Enter van and stow gear from exterior.
7. LATCH TENT, CHECK LATCH. LATCH SHOULD NOT PROTRUDE.
8. Lock all exterior doors. Check mirrors and clearances. Start Van. Hit road.
Best!
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Bntbrl
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I was wondering how well the TearMender held up. The flfs didn't hang over 2 oz bottles. Ill try another friendly local fabric store.
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msinabottle
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| Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:36 pm Post subject: They Held! |
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There were holding fairly well when I pulled that old tent last May. I did get some pulling where the rivets were through the old worn thin canvas, but strips of cloth and that 'Tear Mender' glue held pretty well! The repair even held when the roof popped open at highway speed--twice...
And other parts of the canvas gave. There are, these days, kits to replace a torn out front window, but my method worked and held!
Best!
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Bntbrl
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How long did the repairs hold for?
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msinabottle
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| Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 10:51 pm Post subject: <blush> |
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And yet I have so few stickies...
The patches on Winston's OEM canvas are holding just fine, thank you. I did have to reinforce my rivets a bit on one corner of my 'snap on' replacement screen with some more of that patching TAPE. That worked quite well. I keep toying with the idea of replacing the old canvas with a new Sunbrella 3-window (That Canadian company,
http://www.atelierspk.com/west_english.html
looks rather good for that), but I get so much air with the jalousies, and the repairs I did seem to be holding up so well, that I keep letting it slide.
Best!
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Great find & link, worth looking at for other stuff besides VW.
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If you have just holes in the insect netting and your zipper is still in good shape, Fancher's sells a nicely made replacement net. I have one from the and it works perfecto.
link:
http://fanchers.com/223/Screen%20Replacement.htm |
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I dug out some iron on patches I have for Scooby's pop top. The problem is that Riviera's are not canvas and I will have to be VERY careful doing this repair job as the material used will most likely, probably melt. I may not iron and just glue the patches on. I have all colors and I'm thinking of using the bright colors to show a 'dog patch' like tent. But I will probably do it with taste and sense for resale value.
I have lots of little jobs to do but can't do anything right now, what a waste of time .
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