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west coast Samba Member
Joined: September 25, 2005 Posts: 48 Location: newbury park ca.
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 8:57 pm Post subject: Flat 4 |
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I recently called moon eyes in Santa Fe Springs where flat 4 was located to order a abarth style exhaust and they said flat 4 is no longer there. Does anyone know if they moved or are open anymore? Thanks. |
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hootowls Samba Member
Joined: November 14, 2005 Posts: 63 Location: Lompoc, CA
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53 0val Samba Professor
Joined: July 03, 2003 Posts: 11396 Location: Irvine, CA
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 12:05 am Post subject: |
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Do yourself a favor and forget Flat 4. Total Junk.......Everything they make is a poor reproduction at best. _________________ "What a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away." Dobee, Dobee, Do |
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RareAir Samba Member
Joined: May 11, 2002 Posts: 14577 Location: 18 miles North of the border
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 7:49 am Post subject: |
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53 0val wrote: |
Do yourself a favor and forget Flat 4. Total Junk.......Everything they make is a poor reproduction at best. |
But I heard they are the Empi of the 21st Century |
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Airsick Samba Lowering Squad
Joined: July 26, 2003 Posts: 719
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 8:38 am Post subject: |
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Isn't that the same thing?
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west coast Samba Member
Joined: September 25, 2005 Posts: 48 Location: newbury park ca.
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 10:01 am Post subject: |
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53 0val wrote: |
Do yourself a favor and forget Flat 4. Total Junk.......Everything they make is a poor reproduction at best. |
Can you help me out and tell me who would have an Abarth style muffler in the U.S., rather than telling me not to buy some product. |
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Alan Willis Banned
Joined: November 22, 2004 Posts: 4181 Location: booted from the SEWR and stalked in here
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 10:05 am Post subject: |
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Contact Anthony at ISP west(310)637-2100 |
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west coast Samba Member
Joined: September 25, 2005 Posts: 48 Location: newbury park ca.
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 10:14 am Post subject: |
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Alan Willis wrote: |
Contact Anthony at ISP west(310)637-2100 |
thanks I will try him. |
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Peter_Plade Samba Member
Joined: January 09, 2005 Posts: 551 Location: Denmark
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Dave Haviland Samba Member
Joined: June 26, 2005 Posts: 322 Location: Burlington, Vermont
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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I would definately go with Stephane. Wob Specialties I believe. That looks like a quality product.
As far as I know, you can't get the flat-4 anymore. When I was looking to purchase one a couple of years age, Bill Collins told me the flat-4 ones were pretty much junk. Yeah, what Bob said.
Dave |
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53 0val Samba Professor
Joined: July 03, 2003 Posts: 11396 Location: Irvine, CA
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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Bill is correct. They are total JUNK. If you buy anything from Flat 4 you have just wasted your money. You will be looking to replace it in a year anyway. It's a wonder they stay in business at all. Notice how most of their old distributers have dumped them. They would not support their products or deliver on their promises. The typical Japanese company trying to turn the fast profit. Save your money or pay a little more for a quality product with customer service. _________________ "What a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away." Dobee, Dobee, Do |
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John Moxon Samba Moderator
Joined: March 07, 2004 Posts: 13955 Location: Southampton U.K.
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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Dave Haviland wrote: |
I would definately go with Stephane. Wob Specialties I believe. That looks like a quality product.
As far as I know, you can't get the flat-4 anymore. When I was looking to purchase one a couple of years age, Bill Collins told me the flat-4 ones were pretty much junk. Yeah, what Bob said.
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Stephane tells me he now has a distributor in Socal for his Stainless 4 tips. Didn't say who they were but I'll ask him this weekend.
The reason why Stephane's stainless exhaust were made was that the Flat 4 versions didn't fit. _________________ John.
Judson Supercharger Information on The Samba
My 1958 Shorrock Supercharged Karmann Ghia
Stop dead photo links! Post your photos to The Samba Gallery! |
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Ram4Sam Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2005 Posts: 147 Location: Redlands, Calif
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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What about their repro wheels, how is the fit/finish of the Sprintstar copies they make?
Sam _________________ '56 oval resto/mild mod in progress |
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53 0val Samba Professor
Joined: July 03, 2003 Posts: 11396 Location: Irvine, CA
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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Take a guess........... _________________ "What a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away." Dobee, Dobee, Do |
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Pennywise Samba Member
Joined: January 19, 2004 Posts: 396 Location: Ellicott City, MD
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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Ram4Sam wrote: |
What about their repro wheels, how is the fit/finish of the Sprintstar copies they make?
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I will take the guess out of it for you. They look pretty good in my opinion. I bought a set because I did not want to shell out the big bucks for the old real ones, which can be hard to find. On my oval I am going to get the stock ones sandblasted and repainted, but they will be good on my 59. If you don't care what people say about the wheels you have on YOUR car, then it doesn't really matter if they are real or not. They seem sturdy and look like they will last. I will only know after riding them for awhile. I guess people on here might know more about this since they seem to have bought a lot of Flat4 stuff. At least it sounds that way from the way they are talking - like they have first-hand experience. |
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Ram4Sam Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2005 Posts: 147 Location: Redlands, Calif
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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Pennywise, thanks for your opinion on them, it was much more useful than the previous caveman-like response. I really like the looks of them but the originals are hard to find and pricey. I hope they hold up for you. Are the rim/spokes polished or chrome? Clearcoated?
Thanks, Sam _________________ '56 oval resto/mild mod in progress |
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Wiggy Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2003 Posts: 6601 Location: Downingtown, PA
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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Ram4Sam wrote: |
Pennywise, thanks for your opinion on them, it was much more useful than the previous caveman-like response. I really like the looks of them but the originals are hard to find and pricey. I hope they hold up for you. Are the rim/spokes polished or chrome? Clearcoated?
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Until you come back and bitch about the quality. Then you will be the one with the shitty opinion. Flat 4 stuff is junk. _________________ Kevin "Wiggy"
My 58 Ghia Vert
My 51 Split 11G
My 57 Deluxe
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53 0val Samba Professor
Joined: July 03, 2003 Posts: 11396 Location: Irvine, CA
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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I know of two cracked ones and one that cannot be balanced that you can get cheap Sam. We cavemen know the trails once in awhile. It is your money.......but I posted on the topic to help the less informed save some money. Flat 4 does not Xray their crap....they do not warranty their wheels and most speed shops will not mount them. Go to Drag Days and ask the pros. Nobody would ever race one. Is that too much information?
_________________ "What a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away." Dobee, Dobee, Do |
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Pennywise Samba Member
Joined: January 19, 2004 Posts: 396 Location: Ellicott City, MD
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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53 0val wrote: |
I know of two cracked ones and one that cannot be balanced that you can get cheap Sam. We cavemen know the trails once in awhile. It is your money.......but I posted on the topic to help the less informed save some money. Flat 4 does not Xray their crap....they do not warranty their wheels and most speed shops will not mount them. Go to Drag Days and ask the pros. Nobody would ever race one. Is that too much information?
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Actually that is still not enough information. As usual. Is what you said your personal experience? Or "someone you know"?
I know of hundreds of bad OG rims, so? Guess what? If my rims go bad I will complain, but I won't give advice on products I have not used or do not have empirical knowledge about. If you have used their products let us know which ones and what was wrong. Everyone seems to be saying "I know someone who knows someone..." |
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53 0val Samba Professor
Joined: July 03, 2003 Posts: 11396 Location: Irvine, CA
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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You are right to think that experience is a good teacher............intelligence is a better one. Ask around and make your own decisions. I don't buy fakes or reproductions especially any made with quality control like Flat 4's. If you can't afford the real thing........don't think that what you get is anywhere near it. You would think that I'm the ONLY one that has this opinion huh? Wrong again.......you're on a learning curve, but you better not just buy the product because you don't like my opinion of it. Contact West Coast Classics or BFY or Wolfsburg West or ISP. Ask the people who have sold it and won't make that mistake again. The Samba has many people who have experienced their products.......keep asking and then add up the responses and then make a decision. Just because I'm not telling what you want to hear doesn't make me wrong. I've been in this hobby longer than you have been on the planet..........do you think it's possible that I might have seen or heard or experienced issues with this company or do you think I just fell off the turnip truck, hit my head, and came up with this attiude? I don't have to PROVE anything to you and you don't have to pay any attention to me. A Neanderthal like me probably has forgot more that you know anyway. _________________ "What a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away." Dobee, Dobee, Do |
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